batman

It is Viv ... I only know that 'cos Joe told me .

Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Joenoir

I believe she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder (manic depression) which is a devastating condition to have, as is any mental health problem. Thankfully there are a great many high profile people who have been brave enough to talk about their own mental health difficulties, thus taking away some of the stigma associated with such a widespread concern.

Start every day with a smile and get it over with.

batman

Well said, Joe.

Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Steve Crook

Maybe, but I suspect she had other problems of a mental health nature as well.

I saw Stephen Fry's programme about bipolar disorder and applauded it. Especially when he left the cameras running while he was having a depressive phase.

And I also liked the way he asked everyone what if they had a big red button that could get rid of the disorder, would they press it? The vast majority said the wouldn't. They were willing to put up with the depressive phase so that they could keep the manic/creative phase

Steve

Harleybloke

Possibly 2 of the most stunning women of all time, Viv & Norma Jean, had real mental health problems. So sad.

Would they be so 'Iconic' if they had been free of the problems though?

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

batman

That's actually a very good point.

As Aaryk said a person's mental state is part of who they are and some very creative people, such as Marylyn and Vivien, possibly wouldn't have achieved what they had if they had been 'well'.

With regard to their 'iconic' status .... probably not. The public love a tragedy, and often the public will warm to a particular 'celebrity' in difficulties because they feel that it gives them a connection with that individual, and they can put a kind of long distance protective arm around them. However, sometimes the public will turn on a 'celebrity' and offer nothing but scorn and ridicule, as happened with Bela Lugosi when his drug problems became public.

We have such a thing happening today .... Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty. Amy generally get positive press and media coverage when her problems are discussed, but Doherty gets the finger wagging and abuse.

Vivien and Marilyn are still well loved today .... icons!

Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

David Brent

As has been mentioned before on this thread, it is amazing how many beautiful actresses have fallen onto hard times, suffered depression and/or taken their own lives.
Keeping up the public persona is very hard work.

Dave.

batman

It's hard work looking like a legend ....



Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

batman

Meanwhile, back with the sexiest actresses ....



Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Harleybloke

Nice...but who?

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

batman

Merle Oberon ...



Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Harleybloke

VEERRRYYY Nice Bats!!

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

Mark O

Not sure if these have already been mentioned being new round here, but how about (in their heyday)

Kate Winslet
Shirley Anne Field
Joan Collins
Sue Lloyd
Sylvia Syms
Susanah York
Adrienne Corri
Lady Penelope

Mark

batman

Has Kate Winslet had a heyday? Can you have a heyday before you get to 30?

Answers on a postcard to .....

Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Aaryk Noctivagus

Now that's my kind of girl



Not so much the impersonator... though she did very well in a very bad movie...