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Old 04-04-2008, 05:59 PM
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Cheers DB7 ... I never knew that. Do you know when this incident occurred?

Re: GB ... the story I heard was that because MC was a sort of unoffical 'technical adviser' on AHIK, GB got the hump because MC was spending more time with the director than him, consequently he was a bit 'off' with MC throughout the filming.
No MC is very complimentary about GB in his book and MC can be cutting about some people and said in an interview that there was some score settling in the book. MC could well have been a technical adviser because he saw action in Korea.

Ref. RH - MC was interviewed in the Sunday Times when he was doing the Harry Palmer revivals and bragged that Harris, Burton and O'Toole were a pack of drunks who squandered it and Bates, Finney and Courtney got it in the neck too. Caine was essentially an argument that he was the only real British star of his era. He has since protested that he was misquoted though when Ross interviewed him when he was 70 MC did the same trick stating that he was the first real male star of the British cinema and that hitherto it was all homosexuals and little schoolboys in tweed suits. He never mentions a certain Scottish actor when he talks like this curiously.

Harris responded the following week in the letters column saying, amongst other things, that MC was a over-fat windbag who had been trivialised by his own wealth.


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No MC is very complimentary about GB in his book and MC can be cutting about some people and said in an interview that there was some score settling in the book. MC could well have been a technical adviser because he saw action in Korea.

Ref. RH - MC was interviewed in the Sunday Times when he was doing the Harry Palmer revivals and bragged that Harris, Burton and O'Toole were a pack of drunks who squandered it and Bates, Finney and Courtney got it in the neck too. Caine was essentially an argument that he was the only real British star of his era. He has since protested that he was misquoted though when Ross interviewed him when he was 70 MC did the same trick stating that he was the first real male star of the British cinema and that hitherto it was all homosexuals and little schoolboys in tweed suits. He never mentions a certain Scottish actor when he talks like this curiously.

Harris responded the following week in the letters column saying, amongst other things, that MC was a over-fat windbag who had been trivialised by his own wealth.
Cheers Windy. MC was very scathing about Brando after they met in Paris in the early 70s. Unfortunately the chap who told me about the MC/GB 'feud' is no longer with us so I can't ask him about it. The ITC story was about how GB was 'off' with Steve Forrest during an episode of The Baron. Like many of these stories I expect the truth will never be known. I personally like GB, IMHO another under rated stalwart of UK films.

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MC did the same trick stating that he was the first real male star of the British cinema and that hitherto it was all homosexuals and little schoolboys in tweed suits. He never mentions a certain Scottish actor when he talks like this curiously.
Or Stanley Baker, and you'd imagine that he'd have good reason to remember him...

I read somewhere that Caine claimed he turned down the part of Gerald Crich in Women in Love because he wasn't prepared to do the nude wrestling.

Strange that Ken Russell has said on many occasions that there was no nude wrestling in the script until Ollie Reed was cast as Crich and persuaded Russell to go back to the novel and restore the scene (Russell originally set the scene in a river where everyone's modesty would be protected).

A case of wishful thinking perhaps on Caine's part?
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This may be the reason behind Caine's rancor:
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Orson Welles came backstage to congratulate him and, better still, offered him the part of Esau in his upcoming Hollywood epic The Bible. Though Welles would be kicked off the project and replaced by John Huston who'd cast Richard Harris as Esau, as well as Peter O'Toole and Stephen Boyd, this was still good news. Caine was catching up with those peers he thought were disappearing out of sight.
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In the mid 90s.

And Harris delighted in bringing it up whenever he was subsequently interviewed (probably I suspect because he knew Caine was a bit embarrassed about what he said).

From The Times

"Caine let slip in an interview with this newspaper that “the British actors were all drunks — O’Toole, Harris, Burton”. This produced a less than polite riposte from Richard Harris: “[Caine] is an over-fat, flatulent, 62-year-old windbag, a master of inconsequence now masquerading as a guru, passing off his vast limitations as pious virtues.”
God bless Harris, as much as I enjoy Caine, I have to agree with him.

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No MC is very complimentary about GB in his book and MC can be cutting about some people and said in an interview that there was some score settling in the book. MC could well have been a technical adviser because he saw action in Korea.

Ref. RH - MC was interviewed in the Sunday Times when he was doing the Harry Palmer revivals and bragged that Harris, Burton and O'Toole were a pack of drunks who squandered it and Bates, Finney and Courtney got it in the neck too. Caine was essentially an argument that he was the only real British star of his era. He has since protested that he was misquoted though when Ross interviewed him when he was 70 MC did the same trick stating that he was the first real male star of the British cinema and that hitherto it was all homosexuals and little schoolboys in tweed suits. He never mentions a certain Scottish actor when he talks like this curiously.

Harris responded the following week in the letters column saying, amongst other things, that MC was a over-fat windbag who had been trivialised by his own wealth.

I read Caine,s autobiography ( one of em) years ago & he stated he thought

Anthony Steel was Britain,s first really manly actor, the previous ones being a bit

effete.

What about Stewart Granger!!!!
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I read Caine,s autobiography ( one of em) years ago & he stated he thought

Anthony Steel was Britain,s first really manly actor, the previous ones being a bit

effete.

What about Stewart Granger!!!!
I always found Steel a bit effete.

Trevor Howard, John Mills - neither of those guys are especially effete either.

That Maxwell Reed bloke was a bit manly as well!

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I always found Steel a bit effete.
Can a plank be effete?

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Can a plank be effete?

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Good point ..... I suppose it depends how you paint it.

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