Torquemada

Spot on.

Wolfgang

Even though this may be true their relationship still essentially has this master/servant dynamic to them. Danny Glover is still playing Tonto isn't he? It even feels one step back from 70s Blaxploitation because even though those films relied on cultural stereotypes they were still basically about empowerment. Those films suffered similar fates to British film in that they lost their distribution network to Hollywood cinema chains, and apart from Spike Lee no-one else is able to make those sorts of films now.

Torquemada

You see again, I didn't get that. I always took it that Glover was in charge and that Gibson was the naughty subordinate.

kelp

Danny Glover's playing Tonto!
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a Woman!
All just great fun matey, nothing about racist/slaves or anything else, just good escapist movies.

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kelp

Chrissy, these avatars of you, why can't we see your head???
I happen to know you have rather a nice face, so why can't we see it.
(Mind you the legs photo is pretty nice too)
kelp

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Steve Crook

Is the world ready for the woman of mystery to reveal herself?
(I like the legs as well)

Steve

Wolfgang

I think we should just be grateful for what we get.

kelp

Yeah! Yeah! the Worlds Ready!!!!

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ChristineCB

You can blame this Cat-In-Hat on both Image45 and Aitch's hats. You've been lucky I haven't posted my firing-range photos or the ones from the helicopter pilot training.

I mean, the ones before they ran me off.

They were SO sensitive... good grief, they started with 4 and I thought "Try try again" certainly meant the first two crashes were freebies, and the third one was, well, just not my fault at all. How was I supposed to know that hangar didn't have a flip-lid top like James Bond Volcanoes?

I mean, they had the 4th one just sitting there. Doing nothing. I could have finished the lesson in that one, if only the firetrucks and emegency personnel had cleared out... men can be SUCH babies about their playtoys!

I mean, REALLY... I'd learned SO much in those first three crashes. What's the chance that a smart person like me would have wrecked all four?

And in the same hour, too!

ChristineCB

Back to the thread's topic (well, at least briefly... let's not distract ourselves from these other distractions...)

I am tempted to make a comment about an audience's narrow perception of everything that's displaying any racial differences at all.

Jay Silverheels is quoted as saying he didn't mind being second-fiddle because he had prop guns pointed at him only 1 out of 10 times, compared to the far-more numerous burns and accidents suffered by the show's star, Clayton Moore. And while Jay was playing "only a sidekick" in the series, the stunt fights resulted in only 2 injuries compared to the almost weekly injuries suffered by Clayton Moore. He said being second fiddle meant he went home under his own power while Moore was being stiched up, splints onto fingers and bandaged up "like a Lon Chaney mummy."

His regret, probably like Harry H's and others, were that he couldn't get offers for other roles.

Nor could the star, though.

I am sorry for those 'sidekicks' who didn't find satisfaction and pleasure out of their roles.

Tony Randall said he didn't enjoy the Doris Day-Rock Hudson roles at the time nearly as much as he did later, and does now. To me, his characters always improves the movie's energy and enjoyment.

Steve Crook

Steve

kelp

Now that's logical. ( )

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codsall

Some actors always seemed to be cast as sidekicks or in general supporting roles. Ronald Reagan was one. There was a joke that went round Hollywood when he first announced his intention to stand as President: Q 'Have you heard? Ronald Reagan for President!' A 'No, Ronald Reagan for best friend!'

batman

When I was an actor in the theatre I was usually 'best friend' or 'brother' to the leading character (Horatio in 'Hamlet' etc) except when I was the heavy. I was just happy to be working. In my rare forays into tv/film I didn't even get that far up the pecking order .... I was always 'man on bus', 'garage attendant' or '1st constable' .... but I always enjoyed what I did. Lack of ambition I suppose, which is why I now grace another profession.

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ChristineCB

Sometimes I think of Dirty Harry's "Every man needs to know his limitations" comment, but I know I have so many. Trying to find peace and happiness despite my failure to be annointed as Emperess Of The Universe is a daily struggle. Heck, even hourly!

Nigel Bruce had a fair bit of sidekick/best friend type roles and I hope he found peace and happiness in participating in some of those great ones.

The "I always enjoyed what I did" comment is good to hear. I have learned to appreciate the character and supporting actors as I've learned more about films, and why I enjoy the films I do. There aren't that many of my favorites which don't have sterling character or supporting actors littered thru-out.

FATHER GOOSE has been on TV lately, and one of my favorite scenes has Trevor Howard sitting at his desk as his lieutenant barges in and says, "Mother Goose is asking for a chaplain..."

Trevor remains calmly seated, almost expecting the worse - "Good grief, he's killed her" in a flat resigned tone.

"No sir, they want to get married!"

And THAT bolts Trevor straight up, all the shock in the world in his contorted face,

"MARRIED?!! Goody Two Shoes and the Filthy Beast?!!"

Superb little pieces there by Trevor. Just perfect. The film has other funny scenes, but I end up noticing Trevor's performance with each replay (which is, fortunately, frequent - 4 or 5 times a year).

Trevor had his shot at top-billing immortality, too, and did a great job. But his supporting roles were among the best ever, and were almost always among those films' highlights.