Cast against type

[Gary D.]

I thought John Wayne laughable as a Roman soldier. Something to the effect, 'We have killed the Son of Gawd!' Even worse, Genghis Khan? You've got to be kidding. I think he once played a German submariner as well--not sure of that. When Mr. Wayne stuck with what he was good at--shooting bad guys and Indians--he couldn't be beaten. I am not sure how popular he is with our Arizona Indians, however.



Gary Judkins

[Wicked Lady]

name='Gary D.']I thought John Wayne laughable as a Roman soldier. Something to the effect, 'We have killed the Son of Gawd!' Even worse, Genghis Khan? You've got to be kidding. I think he once played a German submariner as well--not sure of that. When Mr. Wayne stuck with what he was good at--shooting bad guys and Indians--he couldn't be beaten. I am not sure how popular he is with our Arizona Indians, however.



Gary Judkins

The exact line was "Trooly he was the Sarn of Gard".



It is forever etched in my brain!



What a movie "The Greatest Story Ever Told" was!



The Conqueror was another classic. I don't think ANYONE was cast well in that, least of all John Wayne as Khan.

[James Fox]

Not a British actor, but "nice guy" Jimmy Stewart always blows me away with that sweaty, obsessive performance in Hitchcock's "Vertigo."

[Gary D.]

I have to disagree about Jimmy Stewart's performance in Vertigo. He was certainty obsessive, but that's what the part called for. Also, I like the way Hitchcock did the settings in San Francisco. I am familar with Babylon by the Bay, having lived there. I also had a DeSoto very similar to the one Jimmy drove in the film. I also had a big thing for Kim Novak, and was glad she got the part rather than Vera Miles.



Gary Judkins

[MovieLover12]

name='Gary D.']He was certainty obsessive, but that's what the part called for

I thought Jimmy was very good.

name='Gary D.']Hitchcock did the settings in San Francisco

Jimmy's character being afraid of heights was perfect for San Francisco as the area has a lot of tall buildings to add to the effect.

name='Gary D.']I also had a big thing for Kim Novak, and was glad she got the part rather than Vera Miles.

Kim was going to be better then Vera, I agree.

[batman]

name='James Fox']Not a British actor, but "nice guy" Jimmy Stewart always blows me away with that sweaty, obsessive performance in Hitchcock's "Vertigo."

Jimmy wasn't always the 'nice guy' ... check out the westerns he made with Anthony Mann.

[SirOllyBolly]

name='dremble wedge']Ollie? Camp? Surely not

I am not seeing it and it never happened.



What film is that from? (Please say its from a film and not some real life event....)

[Steve Crook]

name='SirOllyBolly'] I am not seeing it and it never happened.



What film is that from? (Please say its from a film and not some real life event....)

I think the one on the left is from a chat show.



He was a very camp ballet dancer in The League of Gentlemen



Steve

[Wicked Lady]

I actually find the moustache more disturbing than anything else in that picture.

[dremble wedge]

name='SirOllyBolly'] I am not seeing it and it never happened.



What film is that from? (Please say its from a film and not some real life event....)

It's Hired to Kill from 1990. It's completely insane, but a lot better than the sort of stuff Ollie was making for Harry Alan Towers at the time. He seems to be enjoying himself in this one...



It isn't that hard to find when you cionsider the bafflingly obscure nature of most of Ollie's later stuff (I'm still looking for the trio of German films Ollie made for Menahem Golan in the mid-90s!)

[dremble wedge]

name='Wicked Lady']I actually find the moustache more disturbing than anything else in that picture.

The 'tache is a mighty, magnificent creation

[Marky B]

name='Wicked Lady']The exact line was "Trooly he was the Sarn of Gard".



It is forever etched in my brain!



What a movie "The Greatest Story Ever Told" was!



The Conqueror was another classic. I don't think ANYONE was cast well in that, least of all John Wayne as Khan.

Director George Stephens told Wayne to look up to the cross and say it with awe.

"Gotcha. Aw Trooly he was the Sarn of Gard."

Ta Ta

Marky B

[Maralyn]

name='Steve Crook']The Road to Morocco?



Steve

Thanks Steve knew you'd know it!



Maralyn

[Mr Sloane]

I don't know if its really cast against type but what about actors who make better villians than heroes.

to start it off :-

Fred MacMurray

Bob Cummings

Robert Culp

Ray Milland

Tom Cruise

Nicole Kidman

Elizabeth Taylor

[batman]

name='Mr Sloane']I don't know if its really cast against type but what about actors who make better villians than heroes.

to start it off :-

Fred MacMurray

Bob Cummings

Robert Culp

Ray Milland

Tom Cruise

Nicole Kidman

Elizabeth Taylor

Maxwell Reed

Anthony Hopkins

Christopher Walken

Barbara Stanwyck

Robert Ryan

Dirk Bogarde

Dan Duryea

David Suchet

Richard Widmark

Kirk Douglas

Burt Lancaster

Kenneth Branagh

Joan Crawford

Bette Davis

Herbert Lom

Derren Nesbitt

Malcolm McDowell

Rex Harrison

Robert Carlyle

[Wicked Lady]

I always prefered Stewart Granger when he was playing a swine.



But the list for "actors who make really unconvincing bad guys" must be just as long.



Gregory Peck, Johnny Mills and Jack Lemmon leap immediately to mind.

[Mr Sloane]

for unconvincing bad guys

Tom Hanks

Ingrid Bergman

Alec Guinness



and not used enough as a baddie/complex character Cary Grant -

[philly]

Sean Connery in The Avengers