Sir Cliff Richard's gay marriage views

[CaptainWaggett]

name='Amethyst_Isle']Fact or just rumours after he passed away ?

Fact - Joan Sims talked about it many times in interviews and in her autobiography and I'm fairly sure Ken did too. As for Oscar - he was married with two kids and seems to have been exclusively heterosexual until well into his 30s. People do change.

[batman]

name='CaptainWaggett']As for Oscar - he was married with two kids and seems to have been exclusively heterosexual until well into his 30s. People do change.

I have been telling people for years that it is quite possible that James Bond did change Pussy Galore. At last I have been vindicated!

[Wicked Lady]

name='CaptainWaggett']Fact - Joan Sims talked about it many times in interviews and in her autobiography and I'm fairly sure Ken did too. As for Oscar - he was married with two kids and seems to have been exclusively heterosexual until well into his 30s. People do change.

I don't know if people change so much as the pressure to 'fit in' gets too much for them and they feel obliged to marry. Cole Porter, Rock Hudson, Anthony Perkins, Peter Allen, Michael Redgrave, to name but a few - all married with varying degrees of success. (A LOT depended on how informed/understanding the wives were, I suspect).



But I think gay people can find members of the opposite sex attractive, too. I've been propositioned by a few gay men in my time (and it's hard to mistake me for a chap - it must be a Joan Crawford thing). And a number of girls I know can say the same.



I read somewhere that Rupert Everett has affairs with women from time to time.

[Marky B]

That reminds me of a storyline a few years ago in Emmerdale,when Butch Dingle fancied lesbian vet Zoe Tate.

Butch:"I love you,Zoe."

Zoe:"Butch,I'm gay."

Butch:"Then let me convert you.".

Ta Ta

Marky B

[stuart.scot]

Dirk Bogarde annoyed me when he said the only gay actor in Victim was Dennis Price, which gave everyone the impression that all the actors involved including him was straight. If he didn't want to come out himself, fine, but why then mention Dennis Price

[francesgumm]

On a more personal note my brother was married for about 20 years with 3 kids, got divorced & is now happily ensconced with a very nice chap

[The Spine Breaker]

name='stuart.scot']Dirk Bogarde annoyed me when he said the only gay actor in Victim was Dennis Price, which gave everyone the impression that all the actors involved including him was straight. If he didn't want to come out himself, fine, but why then mention Dennis Price

He must have forgotten that Hilton Edwards was in the film also ....

[Bilmo]

If people weren't so ready to scorn and gossip about someone's sexuality, nobody would have to declare themselves as being anything other than sexual and nobody would have to either "come out" or be "outed".



I still don't understand what all the fuss is about.



Why don't you start gossiping about someone being heterosexual? I think I'll start a thread about Napoleon - I'll start it off with "Guess what everyone? Did you know that Napoleon was heterosexual" and fill it with scorn, double entendre and shocked words!



I might even put a line in about my cousin Lil', who was a lesbian for 40 years and is now happily married, with 14 children and whose husband has a certificate proclaiming he is neither gay, has had a sex change or has any feminine traits. He even beats her up, just to prove his masculinity. Oh and he never cries and is known as a hard-nosed businessman!



Perhaps we ought to start riots in the streets, demanding that our government passes a law to lock up any person having sex with a member of the opposite gender and that any display of affection, between opposite sexes, should be publicly scorned and the perpetrators of the crime should be stoned or even sent to prison to do hard labour. Perhaps they should undergo correction therapy....



A bit far-fetched, isn't it, until, that is, you remember what happened to Oscar Wilde and what happens to those who find themselves attracted to members of the same sex. Criminals for loving someone? Scorned and tormented for being different? Such prejudice is absurd, but it goes on and people still turn a blind eye to it.



Life's casualty list is full enough. Isn't it time we deprived it of a few more entrants and let people be what they are. Such absurd prejudice affects young and old alike. It is wrong and it is evil.



Sir Cliff Richard may merely want to keep his private life private, for his own reasons. Dirk Bogarde (and many others) understandably kept it quiet, because it was even less accepted then, than it is now. Remember, same-sex associations were illegal. It can still destroy a person's career and it certainly did when Dirk was around. It can also destroy a person's character, as some gutter-press reading fools think gay people are all child molesters.



I still don't care what sexuality Sir Cliff Richard is or may be. I don't care about anyone's sexuality. He has done nothing wrong and he has a right to privacy. Enjoy his music, if you do. Enjoy what anyone can bring to life, but allow them to love and associate with whom they choose. It is such a small thing to ask.



I have a great friend who is black, but I don't see the colour of his skin; I see the warmth and sincerity of his character - and I don't feel the need to question what he does sexually - I think I'm grown up enough to know that for myself!



Wouldn't you feel just a tad foolish, if it were to be proven to you that Sir Cliff Richard is heterosexual after all? However, this still detracts from the real point: it doesn't matter!



"You think that some people are better than others, just because of the way they make love." - Another Country.

[julian_craster]

However, it was Sir Cliff himself who chose to highlight this 'gay marriage' issue in a chapter of his new autobiography, so one can hardly blame the newspapers and other commentators for picking up on it ..........

[Bilmo]

The "gay marriage 'issue'" was his opinion, which he is entitled to both hold and express. Just because a person expresses a positive opinion regarding homosexuality, it does not necessarily mean that that person is homosexual.



If Sir Cliff said he believed alien life existed, would it make him an alien?



It does not - and should not - matter what a person's sexuality is or might be and speculating on something that is so private and inconsequential, is absurd and stupid.