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    My two lads aged 13 and 18 (just turned) appear to have no interest in seeing at all.

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    Senior Member Country: United States torinfan's Avatar
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    I've no interest in seeing it, either.

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    It's a film that is designed and formatted for people more familiar with cr@ppy x-box type games.

    Like Laura Croft were a stand alone films "based" on a video game, this one LOOKS like a video game. It's an upgrade from the "games" zone culture with better effects but the same 10+ age intelectual depth.



    It's another dead end, and has barely recovered it's funding in the US. So Gold help them when all the bills come in. What was the clamour a few years ago about SFX doing away with "real" actors?



    Roll on the return of films with scripts, acting and direction: without car chases, flying saucer crashes and being filmed for the intelectual level and involvement of bl**ding 10 year old kids.

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    name='bluenose']



    Roll on the return of films with scripts, acting and direction: without car chases, flying saucer crashes and being filmed for the intelectual level and involvement of bl**ding 10 year old kids.






    This was just what Joesph L Mankiewicz, the director and writer predicted years ago. Special effects will be the death of Hollywood. how right he was!



    You couldn't pay me to see Avatar.

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    name='bluenose']It's a film that is designed and formatted for people more familiar with cr@ppy x-box type games.

    Like Laura Croft were a stand alone films "based" on a video game, this one LOOKS like a video game. It's an upgrade from the "games" zone culture with better effects but the same 10+ age intelectual depth.



    It's another dead end, and has barely recovered it's funding in the US. So Gold help them when all the bills come in. What was the clamour a few years ago about SFX doing away with "real" actors?




    It's recovered its costs three times over worldwide. Whatever the quality of the film (it's not my sort of thing so I can't comment), it can't be accused of being a financial flop.

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    Avatar owes a lot to Poul Anderson's 1957 story Call Me Joe:



    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe"]Call Me Joe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]





    I wonder if Cameron will give Anderson a post-credit as he did with Harlan Ellison over Terminator?



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    I've seen it. It's awful. Good spectacle but rank bad storytelling with no pace and horribly overlong. Oh and there are plot points that you would hope would get poor marks if submitted in a First Year English composition:



      Spoiler:
    The battle between the colonists and the natives is swung by the intervention of the planet's god.




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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain GoggleboxUK's Avatar
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    I think many people have made up their mind not to like it before they've seen it. That's a little narrow minded in my opinion.

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    name='mal']I've seen it. It's awful. Good spectacle but rank bad storytelling with no pace and horribly overlong. Oh and there are plot points that you would hope would get poor marks if submitted in a First Year English composition:



      Spoiler:
    The battle between the colonists and the natives is swung by the intervention of the planet's god.




    Mal


    I've not seen it yet (despite a recommendation from an impressed friend to do so) but from what I've heard from others you are spot on - all smoke and mirrors but poor dramatic substance. Cameron seems to have a habit of coincidentally coming up with screenplays that are very similar to others better told elsewhere (Titanic / A Night To Remember anyone?).



    The poor man must find that frustrating

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    Alternative titles; Avoncalling?

    The Smurfs in Space?

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    The plot is by the numbers and predictable, but on IMAX in 3D it's an astonishing visceral experience. One of my top 5 films of 2009.

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    I agree with Goggleboxuk...how can you give an opinion on something you haven't even bothered to see!!!!!



    I saw it on Saturday in Imax 3-D at the Waterloo Imax Cinema. The packed audience watched it in silence...loving every minute. It is what cinema should be about...entertainment on a big screen, giving you a chance to forget everyday problems.



    Well done indeed all at Twentieth Fox for risking the money and producing something worthwhile.

    Film Man.

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    name='Film Man']I agree with Goggleboxuk...how can you give an opinion on something you haven't even bothered to see!!!!!


    I, for one, would not dream of doing so - I merely pass on the consensus of those who have seen it and whose opinions I value. I may go and see it to judge for myself and to confirm (or otherwise) something that I have long suspected... that if my senses are overwhelmed by spectacle then my critical judgement can be temporarily neutered.

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    I'm only going if they show Mr Pastry as well!



    My lad went to see Avatar and he liked the first 90 minutes but got a bit bored after that. Not been myself yet but might chance it. The local cinema has been packed most of the screenings in 3D so does seem very popular.

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    i despise CGI,Sci Fi and 3D so would rather eat my own eyes in a mayonnaise sauce using a pair of swiss army knife tweezers than watch 'Avatar'.

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    Hey Film Man, that's where I saw it too There were moments when the fauna and flora of the jungle really seemed like it was going to brush against your face.



    But not everybody's going to like it, for sure. Even though I loved it I still had a chuckle at a couple of the nicknames I've heard; Ferngully in Space, Smurfahontas...



    I did get into an argument with a friend who didn't like it but keeps raving about that massively overrated, bloated, badly written pile of junk Inglorious Basterds, so you clearly can't please everone...

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    name='jaycad']i despise CGI,Sci Fi and 3D so would rather eat my own eyes in a mayonnaise sauce using a pair of swiss army knife tweezers than watch 'Avatar'.
    Don't forget to brush your teeth afterwards.



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    they do it in the congo you know?

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    Interesting that so many have made a judgement without even seeing the film. And the idea that the film is aimed squarely at the "x-box" generation is complete rubbish.



    I have just returned from an evening 3-d showing at my local cinema and at a guess I'd say over half the audience were of pensionable age.



    And just from listening to them and speaking to them they had a hoot. They were there to see it for themselves,



    No - It ain't Bergman but it doesn't pretend to be.

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