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Old 21-08-2008, 08:38 PM
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I appeared as an extra in a movie that was filmed in London. It was called Ester Kahn and the director was Arnaud Desplechin. Information on the web says it's a French movie but it was in English starred Ian Holm and Summer Phoenix and a lot of actors I recognised and I think the money behind it was at least partly British. I checked out the imdb today and discovered that my part (Prompter) is credited but the actor name given is Jon Rumney (who seems to have a career dating back to the late fifties). Is this one of those names they use for unknown actors? Can anyone enlighten me?

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and your name is? Well not Mr Rumney then? No that isn't what they do, as far as I know anyway. Contact them, and tell them who you are and that it was you.

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I appeared as an extra in a movie that was filmed in London. It was called Ester Kahn and the director was Arnaud Desplechin. Information on the web says it's a French movie but it was in English starred Ian Holm and Summer Phoenix and a lot of actors I recognised and I think the money behind it was at least partly British. I checked out the imdb today and discovered that my part (Prompter) is credited but the actor name given is Jon Rumney (who seems to have a career dating back to the late fifties). Is this one of those names they use for unknown actors? Can anyone enlighten me?
No, it definitely isn't what they do.

But if someone was adding the credits from the film and saw the name "Jon Rumney" and saw that there was already an actor in the database with that name, it's very easy to assume that that is the person in this film.

If your name (or the name you appeared under) is Jon Rumney then what you need to do is a Name Split
That will finish up with two entries in the database, for Jon Rumney (I) and Jon Rumney (II). The Roman numerals have no special meaning. Some very famous people have quite high Roman numerals. They are purely to let the system separate out the different credits and they should be in the order that the names were added to the database so this other Jon Rumney will be Jon Rumney (I) and you will be Jon Rumney (II)

If you didn't appear under the name Jon Rumney then you need to do a name correction.
Go to the page for Esther Kahn (2000), hit the Update button near the bottom of the page and select:
Cast ... Correct / Delete
Then change the name Jon Rumney to whatever name you appeared under.

But you say you were an extra. Did you get an on-screen credit?

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That thought did occur to me Steve, as S/A's don't usually get an on-screen credit do they?

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Maybe there's ANOTHER prompter in the film, with a bigger role than Curious, and that part was played by Jon Rumney? Since Curious probably wasn't given a complete script, and has never seen the film, this seems possible.
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Thanks for your help. My name's Tim by the way. I got the film on DVD from America and again on the closing titles the credit reads Prompter - Jon Rumney. There were quite a few S/As working as stage hands some of whom were given lines. I do speak in the film – my line is "If..." I'll have another look through but I was definitely the prompter I wonder if they've got the character name wrong rather than the actor/SA.

I only became interested again when I found out the film was based on a story by Arthur Symons a poet I'm interested in.

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Are you an Equity member ?

I think you have to be in the union to receive an on-screen credit.......
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Are you an Equity member ?

I think you have to be in the union to receive an on-screen credit.......
.... and even then you might not get one.

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No I'm not an Equity member. It was a bit of a one off. I was most puzzled by the fact that the role was credited at all really. It was a fantastic experience. Watching Ian Holm work was something else.

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I think you have to be in the union to receive an on-screen credit.......
Or someone famous for other reasons

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Thanks for your help. My name's Tim by the way. I got the film on DVD from America and again on the closing titles the credit reads Prompter - Jon Rumney. There were quite a few S/As working as stage hands some of whom were given lines. I do speak in the film – my line is "If..." I'll have another look through but I was definitely the prompter I wonder if they've got the character name wrong rather than the actor/SA.

I only became interested again when I found out the film was based on a story by Arthur Symons a poet I'm interested in.

Tim
If there's not another prompter in it then there's a chance that Jon Rumney filmed it, but didn't make the final cut. In that case, his credit on the IMDb should be changed to have the attribute (Credit only). That's quite unusual. If someone is cut from a film they are usually removed from the credits as well. But it does happen occasionally. Although it's unlikely on a major feature film, one that was nominated for the Palm d'Or at Cannes

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