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Old 05-07-2004, 09:34 PM
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I just found one dated '38, gotta hyperlink Steve?

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Isn't The Terror a US production? [/b]
According to the IMDb, there was Terror (1928) which was an American silent western and The Terror (1928) which was a British mystery/horror made with the Vitaphone disk system.

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Sorry, correction to all of the above.
The Terror (1928) does appear to be an American production.

Produced by Warner Bros.
Directed by Roy Del Ruth who only made films in the States.

So Blackmail might keep the title after all.

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I haven't gone through the reference books but I always believed this is to be a British production - I may be proved wrong. The film does apparently still exist in a private collection.

Strangely 'The Clue Of The New Pin' was completed by February 1929 and announcements were made that TCOTNP "which will be the first full-length British talking film, has been completed" but by November 1929 only a silent version was playing in London.
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Do you mean The Terror (1938)?
That's a remake of the 1928 one.

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We've not unanimously agreed yet. Hitchcock's illustrious name alone could cause a revisionist look at the past. violent wink
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Confession time - The Terror was an american production but holds the title of being the first all-talking picture 'released' in Britain.
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Do you mean The Terror (1938)?
That's a remake of the 1928 one.

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Yeah, but I can see where AMP is coming from. Wallace gave British Lion sole rights to his material in 1928 so was The Terror made prior to this agreement? Probably.
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We've not unanimously agreed yet. Hitchcock's illustrious name alone could cause a revisionist look at the past. violent wink [/b]
I'd lead that look at the past. He was a master publicist and often claimed credit for things he didn't actually do.

I didn't nominate him or the film because I particularly like him, just that I believed that to be the received wisdom and the film I've most often seen referred to as the first British talkie.

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Yeah, but I can see where AMP is coming from. Wallace gave British Lion sole rights to his material in 1928 so was The Terror made prior to this agreement? Probably. [/b]
I think you're right. But even then, having a British creator of the story or play that the film was based on (Wallace wasn't even a screenwriter on it) doesn't make it a British film.

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Both films are mentioned HERE
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Strangely 'The Clue Of The New Pin' was completed by February 1929 and announcements were made that TCOTNP "which will be the first full-length British talking film, has been completed" but by November 1929 only a silent version was playing in London. [/b]
That's probably the one that was in the back of my mind when I said that I'd heard there was another British sound film that was completed before Blackmail but not released until after it.

Unless anyone can show different and it's just the Hitch-Hype at work again :)

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Confession time - The Terror was an american production but holds the title of being the first all-talking picture 'released' in Britain. [/b]
Apparently even this is disputable although it definitely was the first "all talking horror picture" released in Britain. Admittedly I've strayed off the path of this arguement now...
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