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Old 20-01-2010, 07:52 AM
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Watching animated special effects in 1960's are much more magical for me imho
This magic works for me too.

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Old 20-01-2010, 08:28 AM
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It's a film that is designed and formatted for people more familiar with cr@ppy x-box type games.
Like Laura Croft were a stand alone films "based" on a video game, this one LOOKS like a video game. It's an upgrade from the "games" zone culture with better effects but the same 10+ age intelectual depth.

It's another dead end, and has barely recovered it's funding in the US. So Gold help them when all the bills come in. What was the clamour a few years ago about SFX doing away with "real" actors?

Roll on the return of films with scripts, acting and direction: without car chases, flying saucer crashes and being filmed for the intelectual level and involvement of bl**ding 10 year old kids.
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I don't think anyone should be dismissive of a film without good reason. After all, the makers have invested much time, effort and of course money in it and that deserves recognition. But when that process occupies 5 years it's a source of wonder if the narrative and dialogue are not, respectively, very original and polished to sparkling perfection rather than, as has been suggested by many in this case, highly derivative and cliched. That it may be a remarkable and impressive technical tour-de-force is worthy of praise - but that is a separate issue.

I really must get to see this film to judge for myself!
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Old 20-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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I like "The Smurfs In Space."
Back in the early 1980s (first computer about four feet square!) we played a space invader game called The Blue Meanies
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Old 20-01-2010, 10:51 AM
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is anybody actually impressed by the CGI 'aliens'? i think they look absolutely terrible and more like a playstaion 3 game!
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Back in the early 1980s (first computer about four feet square!) we played a space invader game called The Blue Meanies
And I went to the movies to see the new movie world that beckoned..........





I must admit that I was a bit depressed when some numpty in the paper wrote that ageing female stars could have whole new lease of life...... ....... He was apparently referring to la Weaver....... .....
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is anybody actually impressed by the CGI 'aliens'? i think they look absolutely terrible and more like a playstaion 3 game!
Here we go again - Have you seen the film ? Looking at screen-shots or watching a trailer does not convey the sheer brilliance of the animation. Yes they do look odd, but they ARE supposed to be aliens.

The cleverness in the film is that after a short while you totally forget that you are watching animation.

Isn't that the old fashioned magic that cinema is about ?
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Here we go again - Have you seen the film ? Looking at screen-shots or watching a trailer does not convey the sheer brilliance of the animation. Yes they do look odd, but they ARE supposed to be aliens.

The cleverness in the film is that after a short while you totally forget that you are watching animation.

Isn't that the old fashioned magic that cinema is about ?
i don't find that i forget that i'm watching animation-the 'yoda' in the later 'star wars' films and the 'gollum' character in the 'lord of the rings' looked flat and layered and i was conscious of it throughout the films,these aliens look even worse-the eyes and movement especially!
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I'm not taliking about Yoda or Gollum. .

Did you go to the cinema, put on the 3-d glasses, and watch the film ?
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Old 20-01-2010, 01:17 PM
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Here we go again - Have you seen the film ? Looking at screen-shots or watching a trailer does not convey the sheer brilliance of the animation. Yes they do look odd, but they ARE supposed to be aliens.

The cleverness in the film is that after a short while you totally forget that you are watching animation.

Isn't that the old fashioned magic that cinema is about ?
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Yoda and Gollum were on screen alongside real people and set amongst real locations. Of course you're more likely to recognise the difference. You could tell Jerry was animated when he danced with Gene Kelly as well.

Your point makes me realise that you have absolutely no idea just how groundbreaking this new animation is. George Lucas waited 20 years for CGI to enable him to make Episode One of Star Wars. This is a whole new level, way beyond Yoda and Gollum. The aliens in Avatar do look strange but it's almost a prerequisite of being alien.

Watch the movie and tell me that Sigourney's character looks animated, or that the backgrounds look animated, after 30 seconds of being on screen. Avatar is a spectacle like you've never seen before and the IMAX 3D is mindblwing.

Feel free to wait 2 years for BBC1 to show it on Christmas Day and continue to have an opinion based on no actual experience of what makes this movie so groundbreaking.
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I'm not taliking about Yoda or Gollum. .

Did you go to the cinema, put on the 3-d glasses, and watch the film ?
thankfully i did not and don't intend to! if trailers aren't intended to encourage a potential viewer to watch a particular film then what are they for? the trailer for 'avatar' and subsequent reviews informed me that it is not a film that i would like-there's more to watching a film than just appreciating special effects.
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Did they look like those creatures in Avatar?
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Yoda and Gollum were on screen alongside real people and set amongst real locations. Of course you're more likely to recognise the difference. You could tell Jerry was animated when he danced with Gene Kelly as well.

Your point makes me realise that you have absolutely no idea just how groundbreaking this new animation is. George Lucas waited 20 years for CGI to enable him to make Episode One of Star Wars. This is a whole new level, way beyond Yoda and Gollum. The aliens in Avatar do look strange but it's almost a prerequisite of being alien.

Watch the movie and tell me that Sigourney's character looks animated, or that the backgrounds look animated, after 30 seconds of being on screen. Avatar is a spectacle like you've never seen before and the IMAX 3D is mindblwing.

Feel free to wait 2 years for BBC1 to show it on Christmas Day and continue to have an opinion based on no actual experience of what makes this movie so groundbreaking.
Perhaps all that is true and not to be flippant, perhaps this film will make trillions and all that, but for me, the film is asking the audience to cross a galaxy to meet strange beings. Now Star Trek did this by saying 'aliens are nasty so hate them' or 'aliens are very sexy (mini-skirts!) so feel seduced by them. We knew where we stood with this logic.
I argue that we can not really love strange looking aliens? They need to be humanoid?
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Did they look like those creatures in Avatar?
They looked nasty little gits floating down for you to fire at them and stop reaching
a set line. They also made a nasty little Merr Merr sound
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