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Old 19-01-2010, 01:05 AM
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Anyone else seen it....

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My two lads aged 13 and 18 (just turned) appear to have no interest in seeing at all.
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I've no interest in seeing it, either.

He brings joy to me.
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It's a film that is designed and formatted for people more familiar with cr@ppy x-box type games.
Like Laura Croft were a stand alone films "based" on a video game, this one LOOKS like a video game. It's an upgrade from the "games" zone culture with better effects but the same 10+ age intelectual depth.

It's another dead end, and has barely recovered it's funding in the US. So Gold help them when all the bills come in. What was the clamour a few years ago about SFX doing away with "real" actors?

Roll on the return of films with scripts, acting and direction: without car chases, flying saucer crashes and being filmed for the intelectual level and involvement of bl**ding 10 year old kids.

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Roll on the return of films with scripts, acting and direction: without car chases, flying saucer crashes and being filmed for the intelectual level and involvement of bl**ding 10 year old kids.


This was just what Joesph L Mankiewicz, the director and writer predicted years ago. Special effects will be the death of Hollywood. how right he was!

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It's a film that is designed and formatted for people more familiar with cr@ppy x-box type games.
Like Laura Croft were a stand alone films "based" on a video game, this one LOOKS like a video game. It's an upgrade from the "games" zone culture with better effects but the same 10+ age intelectual depth.

It's another dead end, and has barely recovered it's funding in the US. So Gold help them when all the bills come in. What was the clamour a few years ago about SFX doing away with "real" actors?
It's recovered its costs three times over worldwide. Whatever the quality of the film (it's not my sort of thing so I can't comment), it can't be accused of being a financial flop.
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Avatar owes a lot to Poul Anderson's 1957 story Call Me Joe:

Call_Me_Joe Call_Me_Joe


I wonder if Cameron will give Anderson a post-credit as he did with Harlan Ellison over Terminator?

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I've seen it. It's awful. Good spectacle but rank bad storytelling with no pace and horribly overlong. Oh and there are plot points that you would hope would get poor marks if submitted in a First Year English composition:

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I think many people have made up their mind not to like it before they've seen it. That's a little narrow minded in my opinion.

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I've seen it. It's awful. Good spectacle but rank bad storytelling with no pace and horribly overlong. Oh and there are plot points that you would hope would get poor marks if submitted in a First Year English composition:

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I've not seen it yet (despite a recommendation from an impressed friend to do so) but from what I've heard from others you are spot on - all smoke and mirrors but poor dramatic substance. Cameron seems to have a habit of coincidentally coming up with screenplays that are very similar to others better told elsewhere (Titanic / A Night To Remember anyone?).

The poor man must find that frustrating

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Alternative titles; Avoncalling?
The Smurfs in Space?

I love old British films! None better.
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The plot is by the numbers and predictable, but on IMAX in 3D it's an astonishing visceral experience. One of my top 5 films of 2009.

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I agree with Goggleboxuk...how can you give an opinion on something you haven't even bothered to see!!!!!

I saw it on Saturday in Imax 3-D at the Waterloo Imax Cinema. The packed audience watched it in silence...loving every minute. It is what cinema should be about...entertainment on a big screen, giving you a chance to forget everyday problems.

Well done indeed all at Twentieth Fox for risking the money and producing something worthwhile.
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I agree with Goggleboxuk...how can you give an opinion on something you haven't even bothered to see!!!!!
I, for one, would not dream of doing so - I merely pass on the consensus of those who have seen it and whose opinions I value. I may go and see it to judge for myself and to confirm (or otherwise) something that I have long suspected... that if my senses are overwhelmed by spectacle then my critical judgement can be temporarily neutered.

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I'm only going if they show Mr Pastry as well!

My lad went to see Avatar and he liked the first 90 minutes but got a bit bored after that. Not been myself yet but might chance it. The local cinema has been packed most of the screenings in 3D so does seem very popular.

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