Titanic

[paulstevens]

name='will.15']I thought Titanic was terrible, too. Night to Remember is much better (and more accurate).

I have to agree. The only reason that Titanic became successful was because there was mass media that continued to cover it. Other than that, it was dull and had absolutely no chemistry... no matter which scene it was. I almost fell asleep watching this.

[Thibault]

Thanks, Jonathan, for your clarification.

[Jonathan Smith]

name='paulstevens']I have to agree. The only reason that Titanic became successful was because there was mass media that continued to cover it. Other than that, it was dull and had absolutely no chemistry... no matter which scene it was. I almost fell asleep watching this.

I too have to agree, to a certain point.



The interior sets were stunning and very, very accurate. The 45ft length hero model was very nice, except for a few minor mistakes in detailing. The 750ft length exterior set was nice, although it had many detailing faults (missing windows and wrongly positioned deck features). But my major gripe is Jack & Rose. I can understand to what Cameron was trying to acheive. He aimed the film at the younger market to get them interested in the story of the ship. Its a shame that he removed many historically correct and shot scenes just to give more screen time to those fictional charactors of Jack & Rose.



I hope that when the film gets its 3D treatment for 2012, that Cameron will stop with his "the film released is the film I like" attitude and put much of the deleated scenes back in for those who appreciate the story as historical and not fictional (Jack & Rose).



Saying that. . . . . I still find ANTR the better of all released [i[]Titanic[/i] films. Always have, always will.

[Mark O]

3-D treatment?...........that's the first i've heard about it Jonathan!



Being a fan it's definitely something for me too look forward too, and thanks for the answer on Ismay.



To me the splendour of 'Titanic' is pure escapism, i've always thought if you look continually for faults in a movie you won't enjoy it.

[Jonathan Smith]

I was asked recently to do a rendering of the Titanic to show a true representation of what she would have looked like from the lifeboats. Unlike many Titanic films which have to show in detail the ship sinking, such as Camerons, the scenes have to be much lighter. So here is my version of how the night would have looked when she went down, based on eye witness accounts and weather conditions.



Sea was calm flat, like a pond, no moon, cloudless, sky littered with stars, the ship aglow in lights fading as the electricity dies. Survivors said the ship at this time; 2.17am, was pitched at a angle of 40 degrees.

[Jonathan Smith]

Thought I would post this here as I did not know anywhwere else to put it. Some may find it of interest, but this is a original 1912 newsreel. It was shown to theatre audiences following the Titanic disaster. The ship seen in the first half of the feature is not the Titanic but her older sister Olympic. It was filmed in the summer of 1911 during her maiden voyage return from New York.



Hope you enjoy.



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93bf8ITtiVI]YouTube - Titanic 1912 Newsreel (original)[/ame]

[Mark O]

Last Titanic survivor has her ashes scattered at Southampton..........



Last Titanic survivor's ashes scattered at English port | NECN

[AdobeFlats]

Have just read this fascinating and informative thread. Thanks to all contributors. I watched Titanic last night on a personal Home-Movie contraption, so was free from iritations from family members. Yep, ANTR was my childhood fim as well, and the one that sticks in my mind. However, I think JC's version is worth a watch just for the sheer spectacle: that sinking-sequence (CGI or not), is certainly something.



Now, I know there are that there are Web Sites devoted to these things, but surely there were anachronisms in this film which shouldn't have got through?



Rose giving the 'middle finger' to the Private Detective etc pursuer?

Would an Irish man really have said to an English man: 'Give us a chance to live you 'Limey' bastard'?

[AdobeFlats]

There's also a Noel Coward play/reveue(?), in which a man & woman are on board a ship and are discussing their future together whilst standing agianst the ship's rail. They pick up their jackets which have been laid over the rail obscuring the ship's hull to reveal the word Titanic.

Obviously this is a contrivance par excellence (The sheer hull size means the ship's name would be many feet below the rail. And then 2 small coats obscuring painted letters many feet tall etc), but as a dramatic effect, it does cause a frisson.

[CaptainWaggett]

name='AdobeFlats']There's also a Noel Coward play/reveue(?), in which a man & woman are on board a ship and are discussing their future together whilst standing agianst the ship's rail. They pick up their jackets which have been laid over the rail obscuring the ship's hull to reveal the word Titanic.

Obviously this is a contrivance par excellence (The sheer hull size means the ship's name would be many feet below the rail. And then 2 small coats obscuring painted letters many feet tall etc), but as a dramatic effect, it does cause a frisson.

Cavalcade. The trick was repeated in Upstairs Downstairs in the episode in which Lady Marjorie goes to America and only in the last scene when Lord Bellamy dictates a telegram to her, does the audience discover that ship she is on

[AdobeFlats]

Cpt W - Never knew that, thanks.

[Mr Pastry Time]

name='Jonathan Smith']Thought I would post this here as I did not know anywhwere else to put it. Some may find it of interest, but this is a original 1912 newsreel. It was shown to theatre audiences following the Titanic disaster. The ship seen in the first half of the feature is not the Titanic but her older sister Olympic. It was filmed in the summer of 1911 during her maiden voyage return from New York.



Hope you enjoy.



YouTube - Titanic 1912 Newsreel (original)

That be right Jon. I have a reel of old silent film which opens with the Titanic Disaster title but it is of the Olympic. The newsreel people tried to cash in on the disaster by hand painting out the Olympic name on the 35mm film as we can see when viwing. Interesting newsreel though and sits in my Titanic collection. Another nice issue was a DVD which was on offer in the states a couple of years ago, and only at the exhibition when they started lifting items from Titanic. This is all newsreel footage and stuff I have had never seen before in 35 years Titanic collecting. Quite amazing...

[Ray]

The Clifton Webb./Barbara Stanwyck version is pretty good too, it won an Oscar for Best story and Screenplay for 1953. This also has a fictional story concerning their marriage difficulties.

[will.15]

Cavalcade was also turned into a popular movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalcade_(film)