stevie boy

I am suprised that no one has mentioned the disgusting language, it is appalling. I am no prude and my language can be fruity but surely this is uncalled for. This in my mind detracts from the performance.

Harleybloke

Well he scared l'il ol' me........................

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

Aaryk Noctivagus

I don't use bad language myself, and I'd prefer movies not to have such bad language in them... however, I don't have any problem if a movie does have bad language in it. I consider it a challenge and a discipline not to use bad language in my own stories or screenplays, but I don't expect it of others.

Aaryk Noctivagus

I thought you were a tough Biker-type... I'm only a nerd. OK... I'm a nerd with teeth... but I wasn't scared of Ben Kingsley. Mind you, neither am I scared when I look in a mirror... so I probably have a tough constitution, nerd or not - lol

Harleybloke

Got a Black Fat Boy to look like Arnie on the outside...... but more like Scooby-Doo on the inside............

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

Aaryk Noctivagus

I'm Shaggy on the outside but Betty Davis on the inside.

batman

I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but I am sure Scooby will tell me ...





Bats.

"Do you know why fattries are called fattries .... it's because they are big and people make things in them."

Harleybloke

Rooby, Rooby, Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

Fareham_Bee

But that's the language of the people they are portraying Steve. It would seem out of place a bunch of gangsters saying "cor blimey guv" etc to each other.

I have to agree on a dislike of bad language for the sake of it but in the context of the film I had no problems.

Aaryk Noctivagus

That's the stock answer used. I remember it being used about an Eddie Murphy movie and wondering how they could say that about 'Beverly Hills Cop' which in all other ways makes no attempt to strive for realism.

Only one movie can I think of where the strong language was necessary... 'Erin Brockovich'. I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of them presently.

Characters in movies are never real people but portrayals and symbolic - even if portraying people who have lived. They hardly ever finish their meals... wooden chairs can be broken over their backs without crippling them... being shot often makes them fly backwards... but when using bad language, its for realism - lol

Gangsters cannot say 'blimey' because it just wouldn't sit (like when Data inadvisedly swore in 'Star Trek Generations')... its not a question of using inappropriate words as replacement... but the writing discipline of using a rule not to resort to such language to aid more imaginative word use as a result.

I maintain that bad language is seldom necessary... and its over-use deadens the impact of those times when it might be effectively used.

Wolfgang

I would not mind less swearing in films where I think it is sometimes used to point where it does not accurately reflect how that sort of person speaks, but OFCOM needs to relax rules for pre-watershed shows like Coronation Street and Eastenders so they can portray more 'true to life' discourse.

Aaryk Noctivagus

Absolutely NO NO NO. I'm Daddy to a pair of young Autistic children, one of which is very much prone to Echolalia. Pre-Watershed needs to be tightened... especially in regards to what goes on in some adverts and trailers.

stevie boy

I can see your point, but it seemed very excessive, bye the way I am a Fulham fan but my brothers girlfriend is a mad bees fan, what do you think of Butcher.??

Harleybloke

Hi Aaryk,

My brother in Law has 2 autistic boys and until you know what is involved you don't have a hope of understanding the problem. How Graham & Sara keep going is a feat I find truely amazing. We all live our lives to a greater or lesser degree in our own 'bubbles.' Only when it comes close to home do we move out of our comfort zone and begin to deal with things. Good Luck fella!

H.

.....You couldn't hear it, if they were shooting at me with howitzers!

ChristineCB

Harley, thanks for this recommendation and the other two. We've just finished off SEXY BEAST, and you're right about this one. And the bump on hubby's head after Sienna, Stockings & Layer Cake will go down with more ice. Or maybe a cold shower.



Unfortunately, we've got our own long good Friday today with the festival in town.

How was SEXY BEAST and LAYER CAKE received upon release? Did you see them on first run's?