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Old 14-09-2007, 12:01 PM
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Harley, thanks for this recommendation and the other two. We've just finished off SEXY BEAST, and you're right about this one. And the bump on hubby's head after Sienna, Stockings & Layer Cake will go down with more ice. Or maybe a cold shower.



Unfortunately, we've got our own long good Friday today with the festival in town.

How was SEXY BEAST and LAYER CAKE received upon release? Did you see them on first run's?
Glad to be of assistance. Sienna in stockings........... However, I digress!

I saw SB the first time out and I don't remember any great fan fare...anybody else?

TLGF..........still a classic..and Helen Mirren's legs....................


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That's the stock answer used. I remember it being used about an Eddie Murphy movie and wondering how they could say that about 'Beverly Hills Cop' which in all other ways makes no attempt to strive for realism.

Only one movie can I think of where the strong language was necessary... 'Erin Brockovich'. I'm sure there are others, but I can't think of them presently.

Characters in movies are never real people but portrayals and symbolic - even if portraying people who have lived. They hardly ever finish their meals... wooden chairs can be broken over their backs without crippling them... being shot often makes them fly backwards... but when using bad language, its for realism - lol

Gangsters cannot say 'blimey' because it just wouldn't sit (like when Data inadvisedly swore in 'Star Trek Generations')... its not a question of using inappropriate words as replacement... but the writing discipline of using a rule not to resort to such language to aid more imaginative word use as a result.

I maintain that bad language is seldom necessary... and its over-use deadens the impact of those times when it might be effectively used.

I can see the point you are trying to make but I stick by the reasoning that they are portraying a kind of people, and they use this language, more than they do in the film as it goes.
I understand the overuse deadens, I saw Chubby Brown and the use of the Fword lost it's impact after ten minutes, whereas Dave Allen used it only a couple of times in his show and it had impact and emphasised the joke well. However I still think the language in this film was relevant to the subject and people. I would have agreed with you had you used Four Weddings as an example, the first ten words or so seem to be the f one.
I agree it is stupid when someone gets shot and they fly across the room, I don't particularly like that kind of film to be honest, I like realism and gritty realism at that. You can't tell me Nil By Mouth would have had half it's realistic atmosphere if they'd not spoken how they did? Have you not thought the people they are portraying haven't got the imagination to use "more appropriate" words?
BTW I agree with prewatershed being tightened up. After the watershed though I feel it is down to the parents to act rather than having someone complain about her ten year old suffering sex scenes at ten thirty. And I have a son with Aspergers, as do I just not as far along the spectrum, You'll understand why I don't let go of an arguement when I tell you this then Maybe they will have to put two versions on dvds in future, one original and one censored?

Stevie, not sure about Butcher yet. I've had a few problems and not been able to get there this season so will just say am cautiously optimistic.

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I agree it is stupid when someone gets shot and they fly across the room, I don't particularly like that kind of film to be honest, I like realism and gritty realism at that. You can't tell me Nil By Mouth would have had half it's realistic atmosphere if they'd not spoken how they did? Have you not thought the people they are portraying haven't got the imagination to use "more appropriate" words?
I'm afraid I have never seen 'Nil By Mouth' - though I have heard of the movie. Gritty Realism is something I try to avoid in cinema... I don't have much of a taste for it. I can admire a movie like 'Kes' for instance, but not find it particularly entertaining to watch. I prefer escapism... but by that I don't mean just trash movies... though I admit I often enjoy them also

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BTW I agree with prewatershed being tightened up. After the watershed though I feel it is down to the parents to act rather than having someone complain about her ten year old suffering sex scenes at ten thirty.
I totally agree. I'm opposed to unreasonable censorship (I support the continued illegality of certain sick movies which show certain real acts and the such like), but I support the watershed, and media classification/advisory certification and wish it would be strengthened... especially regarding adverts for which no warning/advice is ever given.

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And I have a son with Aspergers, as do I just not as far along the spectrum, You'll understand why I don't let go of an arguement when I tell you this then Maybe they will have to put two versions on dvds in future, one original and one censored?
My two children and myself are High Functioning Autistics... quite similar to folk with Asperger's Syndrome... but different in the minute details. For instance, my two and I all had significant speech development delay... many Doctor's will not diagnose Asperger's where such is present (though many also would). Thus my children and I are diagnosed as having Autistic Spectrum Disorders and functioning in the high range.

When were you and your son diagnosed? I was undiagnosed until 2002, though from a child they knew something was afoot (school had me sent to a shrink), they never found out what. I am so relieved that my children have a chance not to be as misunderstood as I have been through most of my life - My eldest is statemented, and the youngest will be shortly and they both have one-to-ones.

I certainly understand the difficulty in letting go of an argument... it is so very very difficult... we're like little bulldogs once we get our teeth into something - lol. Its always getting me into grief. That and the Pedantry and the Prosopagnosia and the Autistic Inertia are, I think the biggest pains... however I quite like the Tangent Thinking, Hyper Senses, and walking Encyclopedia aspects - lol. Since I have RA, my Autistic Hypo-sensitivity to pain is handy also.

Lovely to have found a fellow Autistic here, Bee.
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