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sheriff_bart
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no one has mentioned this
Comfort and Joy (1984) comfort and joy a great film from Bill Forsyth and never seems to get shown anymore. |
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christoph404
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people of Scotland might disagree but I can see why the film doesn't get much favour south of the border!.. William Wallace was not a mythical character, he was a real historical figure and his military and political life is fairly well documented historical fact. A brief history of Wallace; Common but educated man resists the invasion of cruel KIng Edward "Longshanks" and forms a heavily outnumbered army which defeats Edwards invading force at the battle of Stirling Bridge. Wallace was a brilliant strategist and used the topography of the landscape around Stirling, the fact the the river at Stirling had many snakes and bends and the advancing English army was forced to cross at a small narrow wooden bridge, it was the only way to advance North. The scenario was similar to the battle of Thermopylae and add to that the fact that the terrain was very boggy, the large English force of both cavalry and infantry could not deploy their greater numbers to good effect. The result was a bit of a massacre with Wallace reputedely ordering no prisoners to be taken and the defeated and demoralised English army was not allowed to simply flee south but were subjected to wholescale bloody massacre. The hated Earl of Cressingham was unfortunate enough to be captured alive, Wallace had him flayed alive and used the skin form his back to make a "leather" hand grip for his large sword.Wallace was hailed as "Gaurdian of Scotland" and was Knighted by the Scottish nobility to become Sir William Wallace. Fired by his success at Stirling Wallace decide to march south with his army and take the war into England, attacking and capturing Berwick. Political wranglings and betrayal ensued with the Scottish nobility turning against the ambitious Wallace and fearfull of his power he was indeed betrayed by his own kinsmen. Defeated at the Battle of Falkirk Wallace became a fugitive and was on the run for a number of years. He travelled around Europe seeking political support and reputedely had an audience with the pope. Wallace did indeed speak Latin and French which was common to those with an education. Wallace's execution was reasonably well depicted in the film though the true horror of being hanged drawn and quartered was toned down quite a bit. Wallace was a real historical figure and is considered a national hero in Scotland, to be fair to the film Braveheart, it does represent many of the historical events in an accurate way but unfortunately the film does add in quite a lot of hollywood baloney such as the romance with the French queen which is just plain silly. I think the trouble with films that are supposedley based on true characters and represent historical events, when you then add in ludicrous fiction to make the story more entertaining it becomes very easy to dismiss the whole thing as a load of made up fantasy which I would say is not quite the case with Braveheart. I always thought the story of Wallace would have made a good film even before Braveheart came out, but I would have had Scots actor James Cosmo in the part rather than the dimmunitive Gibson. |
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David Challinor
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One of the very first cinema experiences for me was Ring of Bright Water (1968), Scotland's very own Born Free, with otters rather than lions and a sad, but uplifting ending. Some kids must have wept all the way home from the ABC Birkenhead after that bloke with the beard did that to Mij....I just sang along with Val Doonican.
....I'm glad Comfort & Joy got a mention - lovely photography in that film I recall. |
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Moor Larkin
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Anyone got the gaelic cut of Thomasina?
http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/dvd/Th...IjecNgKFP7Q%3d Edition Description • Released in English • Originally in Gaelic • NTSC (Canada and USA) • Runtime: 97 minutes • Color |
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