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    Member Country: Great Britain HaroldShand's Avatar
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    With anticipation now high on the upcoming new James Bond film Skyfall starring Daniel Craig, will the completed film survive without any cuts?

    There is a long history with the Bond films and the British Board of Film Classification, and listed below are just some of the scenes that the censors didn’t want you to see.

    Producers of the 007 movies had to cut scenes, redub dialogue and rewrite scripts because the British Board of Film Classification objected to some of the spy’s more risque exploits.


    http://www.filmnav.co.uk/2012/02/05/the ... nd-scenes/

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    Senior Member Country: UK didi-5's Avatar
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    Interesting re Licence to Kill as it seems to me that in particular the scene with Krest in the pressure chamber was shown on TV prior to the DVD release in 2006. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

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    Interesting info. What a pain in the butt the BBFC were to these people (they were forever picking on Hammer). It's hard to believe that such tongue-in-cheek lines of dialogue had to be censored - yet the BBFC seemed to completely miss the fact that one character in an early Bond film was called "Pussy Galore"!!!!!

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    The BBFC were a law unto themselves. I seem to remember seeing "The Little Hut" in 1957 which I think they gave an X certificate to because of it's content !!.
    Quote Originally Posted by markrgv View Post
    Interesting info. What a pain in the butt the BBFC were to these people (they were forever picking on Hammer). It's hard to believe that such tongue-in-cheek lines of dialogue had to be censored - yet the BBFC seemed to completely miss the fact that one character in an early Bond film was called "Pussy Galore"!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassidy View Post
    The BBFC were a law unto themselves. I seem to remember seeing "The Little Hut" in 1957 which I think they gave an X certificate to because of it's content !!.
    Maybe your local council thought it would have a corrupting influence but the BBFC gave it an A despite the implied sauciness

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi-5 View Post
    Interesting re Licence to Kill as it seems to me that in particular the scene with Krest in the pressure chamber was shown on TV prior to the DVD release in 2006. I could be wrong but I don't think so.
    In the uncut version Krest is thrown in the pressure chamber and we see his head enlarge like a balloon and explode with a loud thudding noise, its quite a blood thirsty sadistic scene, Im pretty sure in the cut version we see him flung in there and a shot of the chamber being switched on and thats it. "Licence to Kill" is not a Bond film I particularly like to watch on a regular basis, the violence is quite extreme and graphic in my view and the way some characters meet their death is quite horrific! ( Pressure chamber, grinding machine, burning) Casino Royale is quite violent but apart from Bond getting his love spuds whipped within an inch of their useable lifespan and the harrowing strangulation witnessed by Vesper its all shooting, poisoning and car wreck stuff.
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    Could be, but as a 13 year old I was chuffed to be able to get into an "X" which the New Bohemia Finchley had it as at the time, and I couldn't see what all the fuss was about.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett View Post
    Maybe your local council thought it would have a corrupting influence but the BBFC gave it an A despite the implied sauciness

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    Cassidy - As a 13 year-old you would not have been allowed to get into an "A" unaccompanied as the old "A" certificate meant that children under 16 had to be accompanied by adults.

    The Daily Mail article seems to have been cribbed from information off the Melon Farmers website.

    Despite all the furore over Licensed to Kill the most heavily cut Bond film remains From Russia With Love and unlike Licensed, the BBFC cuts for From Russia have never been reinstated.

    Various Bond-Lite films got treated even worse by the BBFC. The Bulldog Drummond film Deadlier than The Male had to have cuts before it could even get an "X" certificate. To get an "A" about 10m of additional cuts would have been needed.

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    Senior Member Country: Scotland Gerald Lovell's Avatar
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    My first attempt to see an "X" (The Graduate) aged about 12 went off pretty smoothly as I had failed to see that the programme has changed and the film now showing was Kissin' Cousins with Elvis Presley, cert. "U".

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    christoph - yes, I remember the full version of the pressure chamber scene in LTK very well. Once seen it can't easily be forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didi-5 View Post
    christoph - yes, I remember the full version of the pressure chamber scene in LTK very well. Once seen it can't easily be forgotten.
    I'd forgotten that one but I remember the guy covered in petrol, burning and flailing about - but he deserved it...

    Licence To Kill (1989)
    Director John Glen deemed it to be the best of his five Bond films. On reflection, the the market at the time was simply not ready for such a radical shift in the franchise. It is ironic that Casino Royale managed to make such a change 17 years later.

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    As I've posted previously I used to wear my dads jacket and coat and always managed to get in to X films (I was quite a big lad). My first was "X the Unknown". The only time I failed was "Quatermass 2" when my pal got the year that he was meant to have born in wrong !!!.
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    Cassidy - As a 13 year-old you would not have been allowed to get into an "A" unaccompanied as the old "A" certificate meant that children under 16 had to be accompanied by adults.

    The Daily Mail article seems to have been cribbed from information off the Melon Farmers website.

    Despite all the furore over Licensed to Kill the most heavily cut Bond film remains From Russia With Love and unlike Licensed, the BBFC cuts for From Russia have never been reinstated.

    Various Bond-Lite films got treated even worse by the BBFC. The Bulldog Drummond film Deadlier than The Male had to have cuts before it could even get an "X" certificate. To get an "A" about 10m of additional cuts would have been needed.

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    I'm sure that there are plenty of Elvis fans out there that would have given that one an "H"!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Lovell View Post
    My first attempt to see an "X" (The Graduate) aged about 12 went off pretty smoothly as I had failed to see that the programme has changed and the film now showing was Kissin' Cousins with Elvis Presley, cert. "U".

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    A very interesting thread this - does any of the 'censored' footage remain and, if so, could it be restored for re-insertion into the relevant movies?

    Especially the cut scenes in 'From Russia With Love'. :)

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    The cuts to Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger seem to have been lost forever.

    Thunderball, Diamonds are Forever, Live and Let Die, Licensed to Kill and Tomorrow Never Dies seem to have all of their cuts restored.

    OHMSS suffered a dialogue addition ("in the shoulder") not a cut.

    View to a Kill is still cut and the UE of Goldeneye is still missing a couple of shots (seems to be the US print). Casino Royale is also still cut although the version we have is longer than the US print which was cut differently but heavier.

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    Interesting, thanks. Shame about the lost cuts.

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