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Old 10-12-2007, 10:19 PM
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But for a proper in-depth analysis of the malais at the heart of British industry before Thatcher you should watch "Carry On At Your Convenience".
And Rosie Dixon Night Nurse provides a scathing critique of the NHS in the 70s

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And Rosie Dixon Night Nurse provides a scathing critique of the NHS in the 70s
And what about the 70s decline in standards in both the window cleaning and driver training industries!



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Old 10-12-2007, 10:42 PM
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We can't have LOCAL HERO trumpeted as a positive portrayal of Thatcherite values, it won't do! Firstly, it's set in Scotland, where hardly anybody has ever voted Tory. Secondly, it's about community (which doesn't exist, according to Thatcher) ecology (which the Conservative Party never gave a damn about) and poetic feeling for nature (Thatcher had zero interest in the arts or the countryside).
Just because the characters don't bang on about social issues in an obvious way doesn't mean you can shoehorn some rightwing agenda in there -- I'm pretty sure Bill Forsyth would be horrified by any such reading of his deeply humanist film.
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And here's Bob Todd after he's seen the size of his paycheck.....


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And Rosie Dixon Night Nurse provides a scathing critique of the NHS in the 70s
It certainly provides a scathing indictment of an film industry which can so profligately waste that amount of top talent. And then Maggie became PM the following year.

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We can't have LOCAL HERO trumpeted as a positive portrayal of Thatcherite values, it won't do! Firstly, it's set in Scotland, where hardly anybody has ever voted Tory.
Erm. I think there were parts of Scotland that were staunch Tory heartlands until relatively recently, roughly a third of the vote in 1983: Not updated: UK general election June 1983: seats by party and region

By 1992, they still got 25% of the actual votes.

By 1997 they were wiped out, but still got (I hesitate to use the word polled)17% of the actual votes.

If they've ever been consistently unpopular anywhere, it's probably Wales.

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Erm. I think there were parts of Scotland that were staunch Tory heartlands until relatively recently, roughly a third of the vote in 1983: Not updated: UK general election June 1983: seats by party and region

By 1992, they still got 25% of the actual votes.

By 1997 they were wiped out, but still got (I hesitate to use the word polled)17% of the actual votes.

If they've ever been consistently unpopular anywhere, it's probably Wales.

I don't really want to get involved in all this serious political stuff because it's not nice, but I wonder... has anyone looked at a similar analysis for England?

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I'd put in a vote for Chancer, too. Apart from the fact that it's a personal favourite of mine, both seasons it ran for were particularly interested in the theme of its antihero trying to maintain standards of loyality and honesty (pretty unsuccessfully at times) again a backdrop of trying to save crumbling British institutions, namely an ailing car manufacturer and a tatty, but once beautiful country house.
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has anyone looked at a similar analysis for England?
That website does the whole lot.......

1983 - 45% of the actual votes (but 69% of the seats)

1992 - 45% of the actual votes (but 61% of the seats)

1997 - 33% of the actual votes (and 31% of the seats)

I don't think they've ever been that popular anywhere.......
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Well I reckon 'The Full Monty', 'TLGF' does 'Trainspotting' count?

And, Thatcher? THE WORST PM ever in my opinion. Just my opinion but I can't stand her or what she and her cronies stood for.

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Well I reckon 'The Full Monty', 'TLGF' does 'Trainspotting' count?

And, Thatcher? THE WORST PM ever in my opinion. Just my opinion but I can't stand her or what she and her cronies stood for.
My vote goes to Tony Bliar. It was a great tragedy that John Smith died as he was not only a great leader of the Labour Party,and I am sure he would have been a great Prime Minister for this country. I may not have agreed with his policies,but nonetheless I would have respected him and more so trusted him. Bliar had an easy ten years because he had no opposition - otherwise he would have been on the ropes after the 2001 election.
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My vote goes to Tony Bliar. It was a great tragedy that John Smith died as he was not only a great leader of the Labour Party,and I am sure he would have been a great Prime Minister for this country. I may not have agreed with his policies,but nonetheless I would have respected him and more so trusted him. Bliar had an easy ten years because he had no opposition - otherwise he would have been on the ropes after the 2001 election.
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I agree with everything you say here Mark. I look at Bliar's tenure and in some ways there is a remarkable parallel with that of Thatcher. Big election win .... honeymoon period when everything seemed great .... lack of effective opposition .... involvement in conflicts which divided public opinion (miners strike/iraq) .... various scandals .... a steady decline in "popularity" and eventual removal from office.

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Old 12-12-2007, 02:23 PM
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I agree with everything you say here Mark. I look at Bliar's tenure and in some ways there is a remarkable parallel with that of Thatcher. Big election win .... honeymoon period when everything seemed great .... lack of effective opposition .... involvement in conflicts which divided public opinion (miners strike/iraq) .... various scandals .... a steady decline in "popularity" and eventual removal from office.

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The slight difference being that TB left office of his own accord and didn't have to be dragged out kicking and screaming like That Bl**** Woman.

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