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Old 04-01-2008, 12:41 AM
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No. I'm saying that they were lying when they said it was based on a true story

About the only thing in the film that seems to be true is that there was someone called Charles Coward. All the events portrayed seem to have happened to other people. And they didn't include most of the things that did happen to Charles Coward.
Lying? Outrageous!!!

It's still a good old yarn though.


Just out of interest, there's an enlightening 'Wiki' entry on Charles Coward here.

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Lying? Outrageous!!!

It's still a good old yarn though.


Just out of interest, there's an enlightening 'Wiki' entry on Charles Coward here.
And a good one about the film

If you ignore their claim about the film being based on reality and just look on it as dramatic fiction then I agree, it's a good film. But I really don't like that claim that it's a true story when it patently isn't.

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If you ignore their claim about the film being based on reality and just look on it as dramatic fiction then I agree, it's a good film. But I really don't like that claim that it's a true story when it patently isn't.
Are there any other films that you know of set during the war whose 'facts' were latterly disputed?
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Are there any other films that you know of set during the war whose 'facts' were latterly disputed?
None as bad as that one. I allow for all films taking some dramatic license. But if they say it's based on a true story I expect it to have some relation to that true story.

Some, like Carve Her Name With Pride, The Great Escape, A Bridge Too Far and Odette for instance, are all very accurate with the facts. Or as accurate as they can be in a film and with the facts as they are known at the time of filming.

A Bridge Too Far even chose the actors so that they all look remarkably like the people they are playing

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There was a bit of a hoo-hah several years ago when some 'revisonist' historian claimed that either Odette or Carve Her Name With Pride (I can't remember which one) was mostly fiction. I can't recall all the details but I believe this chap was sent packing rather quickly ... probably to his old mate Mr Irving!

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Thank you chaps.

Now, back on topic... I still think Dirk Bogarde was a cad for shooting poor George Dixon...
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There was a bit of a hoo-hah several years ago when some 'revisonist' historian claimed that either Odette or Carve Her Name With Pride (I can't remember which one) was mostly fiction. I can't recall all the details but I believe this chap was sent packing rather quickly ... probably to his old mate Mr Irving!

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There was a book published that claimed that Violette Szabo didn't make her one-woman stand with the sten gun like it was depicted in the film. And it's well known (from soon after the film was released) that the poem wasn't really written by Etienne Szabo. But apart from that it's very accurate

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Thank you chaps.

Now, back on topic... I still think Dirk Bogarde was a cad for shooting poor George Dixon...
But being killed didn't do much harm to George Dixon's career

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Bought a copy of Death in Venice recently as I hadn't seen it in years. Lovely packaging, compromise widescreen ratio.......BUT SOUND IN 1.0 MONO!!!!!!! It's an effing Mahler Musical for God's sake. The picture is pretty murky too. Visconti is either turning or laughing in his grave.
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A pleasant little stocking-filler, this one!

Bit disappointed in the packaging - always like to see a bit of thought and imagination going into the artwork, but this was about as dull as it gets.

However, for the selection of films on offer, I can't grumble. The set contains:

The Blue Lamp
Hunted
The Sleeping Tiger
The Spanish Gardener
Victim
The Servant
Accident

The biggest draw for me was The Servant, notoriously hard to come by on DVD.

Watched Victim first, however. It was better than I remember; I had first thought it too dominated by its political and social message, but I think I appreciated the drama and its characters in their own right this time.

Watched Hunted yesterday and loved it. Hadn't heard of it before, truth be told, but it was a gem, and certainly deserves to be rescued from obscurity. It's very hard to get such a decent performance out of such a young actor (no more than seven years old), especially when he has so much to do.

Not sure which I'll watch next. The Servant and Accident are the only two I've seen before. Anyone recommend any of the others?

Edit: Oh, yeah, another point I was going to make is that we all (myself included) seem to think social realism began in the 1960s, but I have been surprised recently to see how many pre-Room at the Top movies had the kind of location filming I usually expect only of the late '50s and '60s. Hunted had some cracking location shooting of the North.
Very nice collection of films - although The Sleeping Tiger is very silly. Dirk is always pretty good though, isn't he?

Social Realism was ever present throughout many a Britfilm way before the 1960s ... with films like "Love on the Dole" and Michael Redgrave championing the miners and what not. I'm sure that Steve Crook will know of much earlier examples
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Very nice collection of films - although The Sleeping Tiger is very silly. Dirk is always pretty good though, isn't he?
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A few. Flaherty's Man of Arran (1934) or Powell's The Edge of the World (1937) should both qualify in any Social Realism category. Although like all other categories it depends on how you define it. Social Realism really grew out of an art movement in the 1800s that was against the idealism then present in art. With the addition of photography and then cinema, social realism probably started in the 1930s.

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