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Old 22-04-2008, 11:10 AM   #2731
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How to Build a Cathedral on BBC 4.

Absolutely terrific stuff, but unfortunately it's only a one-off documentary. Enough material there for a series I'd warrant.

Highly educational too, in fact I'm off to start building my own, now where's that flying buttress shop?
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Old 22-04-2008, 11:19 AM   #2732
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You are right Smudge, Michael is indeed an MEP, I never knew that ....

Your MEPs*:*Directory*:*Michael CASHMAN

I saw him on stage in the touring production of The Crucifer of Blood as Lestrade to Mark Greenstreet's appalling Holmes.
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I also watched the hunchback ond,and enjoyed it immensly,i'd like to see the version with anthony quinn.

Kisses at 50, a play for today written by colin wellend with bill maynard 1972 very enjoyable

cheers Ollie.
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I also watched the hunchback ond,and enjoyed it immensly,i'd like to see the version with anthony quinn.
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I quite enjoyed it. Gina Lollobrigida is very sexy as Esmeralda and Quinn is effective (if very different from Laughton). It is one of those big 50s co-productions so it looks spectacular.



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I also watched the hunchback ond,and enjoyed it immensly,i'd like to see the version with anthony quinn.

Kisses at 50, a play for today written by colin wellend with bill maynard 1972 very enjoyable

cheers Ollie.
kisses at 50 is superb
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I quite enjoyed it. Gina Lollobrigida is very sexy as Esmeralda and Quinn is effective (if very different from Laughton). It is one of those big 50s co-productions so it looks spectacular.



Thanks for the stills bats very lavish production values by the look, i think it's available r1.

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How to Build a Cathedral on BBC 4.

Absolutely terrific stuff, but unfortunately it's only a one-off documentary. Enough material there for a series I'd warrant.

Highly educational too, in fact I'm off to start building my own, now where's that flying buttress shop?
I watched that as well, a superb documentary.
I liked the comment near the beginning where he said that when the great cathedrals were being built, most people were living in mud and wood hovels

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They did get on very well. Scorsese went out of his way to find Michael & Emeric and found Michael work when he didn't have any. Marty often asked what Michael thought of his films and valued his input. Michael would often hang around while they were making or editing the films and they would often socialise together.

And it was at one of their dinners together that Marty introduced Thelma Schoonmaker to Michael, after Marty had shown her a lot of P&P films. Thelma immediately fell in love with him and they were married soon after that.

When Marty & Micky first met it was awkward, because they both admired each others films and neither wanted to appear too much like a fan. But they soon got over that.

As for the links between what they put on screen, Thelma gave an illustrated talk about this when they opened the Film & TV building at Canterbury Christ Church - The Powell building of course

Thelma pointed out that Marty never copied scenes exactly, he took in the influence and then did it his own way. But the influence was definitely there. When she asked Marty which of his films showed the most influence from P&P films he said it was all over most of them. They then got some of the more obvious examples which I've listed under Marty on the Famous Fans page.

In Mean Streets, think of the red wash & slow motion when Johnny Boy goes into the bar. A red wash and slow motion are both things that have been done in other films, but Scorsese says he was thinking of P&P films when he decided to do them that way

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Ouch!
You and Capt. Waggett slaughtered me there.
But hopefully you and the Capt. will know all about the following and so shed light or put it to rest.
I saw, I think it was 'Arena', about ten/fifteen years ago. There was home movie footage of M.P.
At some stage Scorcese entered and started socialising, but after a while M.P. became fed up with the situation and walked out. Scorcese, from what I can remember, then started complaining to the camera that the two men could never see eye to eye, much to Marty's regret.
It reminded me of reading about the the frayed meetings of Truffaut /Hitchcock or Anderson/ Ford
If I dreamt all this, my apologies and I'd better see a shrink.
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Ouch!
You and Capt. Waggett slaughtered me there.
But hopefully you and the Capt. will know all about the following and so shed light or put it to rest.
I saw, I think it was 'Arena', about ten/fifteen years ago. There was home movie footage of M.P.
At some stage Scorcese entered and started socialising, but after a while M.P. became fed up with the situation and walked out. Scorcese, from what I can remember, then started complaining to the camera that the two men could never see eye to eye, much to Marty's regret.
It reminded me of reading about the the frayed meetings of Truffaut /Hitchcock or Anderson/ Ford
If I dreamt all this, my apologies and I'd better see a shrink.
You must have dreamt it
I've got the Arena documentary (it's also on Criterion's DVD of 49th Parallel) and the only time they're together is when Micky goes to Marty's apartment in New York while they're celebrating Marty's birthday and Marty & Thelma are editing as they celebrate. Micky looks a bit bemused at the chaos but nobody walks out.

They had some disagreements, certainly. Most friends do. Given the amount of documentary footage I've seen about the two of them and the amount I've read about them, if there was any permanent problem between them, I think I would have heard about it.

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I've got the Arena documentary (it's also on Criterion's DVD of 49th Parallel) and the only time they're together is when Micky goes to Marty's apartment in New York while they're celebrating Marty's birthday and Marty & Thelma are editing as they celebrate. Micky looks a bit bemused at the chaos but nobody walks out.

They had some disagreements, certainly. Most friends do. Given the amount of documentary footage I've seen about the two of them and the amount I've read about them, if there was any permanent problem between them, I think I would have heard about it.

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I'm almost certain it was in England, definitely not N.Y.C, at M.P.'s house (though it was suggested in the doc that M.P. was virtually bankrupt, so I don't know if he owned the house). When he became upset with Scorcese he wandered off into the garden.
However, I do accept there was no long term falling out .
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I'm almost certain it was in England, definitely not N.Y.C, at M.P.'s house (though it was suggested in the doc that M.P. was virtually bankrupt, so I don't know if he owned the house). When he became upset with Scorcese he wandered off into the garden.
However, I do accept there was no long term falling out .
Yes, he did own the house. But as my Mum says when people say she owns her own house so she must be rich, "You can't take a few bricks to the bakers and ask for a loaf of bread"

The cottage is a lovely place in Gloucestershire.



Micky is buried in the local church, next to Pamela Brown. They lived there together until she died. Micky's son Columba lives in the cottage now.

Micky was very poor during the "lost years", having spent all his money on good living and film projects that he couldn't get backing for. And the P&P films weren't being shown anywhere so there was no income from them.

I think I know the documentary you mean. It just caught them in a disagreement. No big deal. They soon made up

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Batman on BBC3.

The REAL one, with Adam West & Burt Ward. So much better than the Big Screen version, no over acting, no puns, no.....................

Anyway, grew up with it. Tune in tonight at 7.30pm to see how Bats gets out of being dunked in acid by the Penguin!

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I went to the NFT for a Robert Donat double-bill. First was The Cure for Love with Rene Asherson and Dora Bryan, plus Thora Hird aged-up by 40 years. Bit of a vanity project for Donat who would have been much better casting 10 years earlier and the studio at Isleworth doesn't quite convince as a Lancashire mill-town but the accents are all good and it there are great performances from Gladys Henson and Marjorie Rhodes.

Next was The Adventures of Tartu, one of those 'let's show how plucky our allies are without actually employing any of them' propaganda pictures. Donat is a bomb-disposal expert and analytical chemist who handily speaks fluent German and Romanian and goes Romania to blow up a poson-gas factory helped by Valerie Hobson as a desgner frock-wearing female spy. Utter tosh but Donat is very watchable especially when he's being a pinstripe-wearing Romanian spiv.
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I also watched the hunchback ond,and enjoyed it immensly,i'd like to see the version with anthony quinn.

Kisses at 50, a play for today written by colin wellend with bill maynard 1972 very enjoyable

cheers Ollie.
Seen the film version Twice in a Lifetime ? Welland was nominated for best original screenplay but had his chances scuppered when Kisses at Fifty was unnearthed by the press and the film was technically in the wrong category.
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The epic encounter at Anfield dominated the night for The Bat (getting away from The Penguin's acid was a doddle) but I did manage to squeeze in more episodes of Secret Agent X-9.
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