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Hi, Smudge, Can anyone tell me about "Births, Marriages...:? I haven't seen it yet, but I'm disappointed to hear Ray Winstone isn't good in it. He usually has impact and a solid presence in a film. I very much liked his performances in Sexy Beast and Henry VIII. Thanks, Barbara |
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smudge
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Ray Winstone's not a fave of mine, but I just meant (I suppose) he was just being 'Ray Winstone' - his 'typed' role, the OTT heavy. The series itself is well worth a look ; the other cast members are excellent - even Maggie O'Neill, whom I had only really seen in INVASION EARTH and didn't think much of. She gives a very good performance in BIRTHS.... SMUDGE [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/vampire.gif[/img] |
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Hi, Smudge, Thanks so much for the comments. You're right about Ray W being a good heavy. Hard to imagine him playing a wimp, especially with his look and build. That must be a series only in the UK [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/crybaby.gif[/img] You get to see the best things there that almost never make it to this side of the Pond. Best, Barbara |
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Hello Mysteries...., Very glad you like Ray Winstone. I'm a relatively new fan of his and am not familiar with Carlin, but he was wonderful in 'Sexy Beast.' I especially like seeing a talented actor who is not 'pretty' make it , also thinking of Ken Stott whom I liked in The Boxer and The Debt Collector. Best, Barbara |
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It's raw & gritty, but the performances are brilliant. Ray plays Carlin, a young thug who's been incarcerated in Borstal (young offenders institution). He hit an officer in one esablishment so he's moved to a new place where they have an even tougher regime. It was first made for the BBC in 1977 but banned by them and never screened until 15 years later. The BBC said that they banned it because "There was too much incident packed into too short a time and that they doubted the veracity." So they thought it was pure fiction. But they also said that it "looked too much like a documentary." Director Alan Clarke and writer Roy Minton got most of the cast together again a couple of years later and re-made it as a feature film. They're both very well made but I think the 1979 film version is fractionally better in various ways. Not just in the production values but in the performances as well. Although there are some that I prefer in the TV version. It's not pleasant viewing though so be prepared to be shocked. But the performances are stunning. Steve |
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Hi, Steve, Thanks for this. Now I really have to find Scum. I like gritty. I'm encouraged to know there's a movie version out which gives me a better chance to find it. It feels good to hear positive comments about Winstone. His Sexy Beast performance was won-der-ful. I know I've said it, but I feel as though I've found a gem. Best, Barbara |
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You can get it on DVD in the States. Places like Amazon do the 1977 film version on a DVD by itself or you can get both versions plus some of Alan Clark's other gems like Made in Britain & The Firm in a boxed set. That's a mere $89.99. Steve |
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