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Old 18-07-2005, 09:45 PM
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Kind Hearts & Coronets by a long way for me. It's very, very dark and extremely humorous, the gentle Englishmans way he goes about bumping off the entire family is hilarious in a very perverse way. The narration is sublime and adds tremendously to the films appeal and casual callousness.

I also have a soft spot for The Magnet.

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Old 22-07-2005, 08:21 AM
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Can you tell me where you got a copy of Israel Rank, please. As i am having a problem tracking it down.
I'm not surprised. My copy was bought in the 1960s, prompted by a retrospective review of "Kind Hearts and Coronets" in Films and Filming. To be honest, I think it was a copy that just happened to be left on the publisher's shelf - probably the last one! The only place now would be in a second-hand bookshop (try Hay-on-Wye) or in a library somewhere.

Interestingly the film leaves out a whole section of the book, when he has a liasion with a shopgirl. But in a play entitled "Kind Hearts and Coronets" (to entice the audience I think) that I saw a few years ago, it kept to the book and not the film.

The ending of the film was typically in the Ealing approach to criminals in their comedies, but it was also against the author's own views. For right at the start of the book he states that he sets out to prove that murders are not always solved. I think that in the way the film approached the story, the Ealing ending was right.
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Old 22-07-2005, 08:33 AM
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I suspect that the sinister figure at the front door harks back to Hitchcock's "The Lodger" from 1926. And indeed that may stem from the German silents of the early 1920s - I don't know because I am lamentably ignorant about classics like "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari". But didn't Hitch spend some time in Germany at about that time?
You're right, I have both of these films and they're great. The sinister feel of "The Lodger" was hightened at the time by the lead role being played by Ivor Novello - as he didn't look like a murderer but you could never be sure. I understand that Hitchcock didn't want Novello in the part but that his popularity at the time meant that the studio w anted him to play the part.

Of course this discussion group is devoted to British films, but all countries influence each other and silent German classic, "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", is a very influential film. Not only is the story quite weird - murder by proxy through sonambulism - but the sets are amazing. The angular buildings owe everything to German Expressionist Art and the characters' make-up and actions blend into this impression as well.

It's films like these that demonstrate how advanced European cinema was in this period and so many people are unaware of this. The result being that early European films are dismissed in favour of their financially supported American counterparts.
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Old 22-07-2005, 12:37 PM
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I'm not surprised. My copy was bought in the 1960s, prompted by a retrospective review of "Kind Hearts and Coronets" in Films and Filming. To be honest, I think it was a copy that just happened to be left on the publisher's shelf - probably the last one! The only place now would be in a second-hand bookshop (try Hay-on-Wye) or in a library somewhere.

Interestingly the film leaves out a whole section of the book, when he has a liasion with a shopgirl. But in a play entitled "Kind Hearts and Coronets" (to entice the audience I think) that I saw a few years ago, it kept to the book and not the film.

The ending of the film was typically in the Ealing approach to criminals in their comedies, but it was also against the author's own views. For right at the start of the book he states that he sets out to prove that murders are not always solved. I think that in the way the film approached the story, the Ealing ending was right.
Even the normally ultra reliable AbeBooks: New Books, Secondhand Books, Rare Books, Out-of-Print Books, normally a great web resource in tracking down otherwise unobtainable books, lets us down with this book - no copies!

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Old 22-07-2005, 01:57 PM
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Even the normally ultra reliable AbeBooks: New Books, Secondhand Books, Rare Books, Out-of-Print Books, normally a great web resource in tracking down otherwise unobtainable books, lets us down with this book - no copies!

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You can set a Watch List entry for it, then ABE Books will email you when a bookseller offers a copy for sale.

From the British Library entry for it:
Israel Rank: the autobiography of a criminal
By Roy Horniman
London: Chatto & Windus, 1907. (pp 408)

Reprinted as just "Israel Rank"
London: Eyre & Spottiswoode, 1948. (pp 311)

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New Poll:
Favourite Ealing comedy?
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned Whisky Galore!
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I'm intending to close this poll soon. Any suggestions for the next one?
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What have we had thus far? The previous one was Carry On films wasn't it? But before that?

How about fave James Bond movie?
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Had the Boultings, Carry-On, trains and Alastair Sim.
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As it's his centenary year, what about a poll of people's favourite Michael Powell film.
Don't forget to include a "None of the above" category. I'm also interested in people who don't like them.

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As it's his centenary year, what about a poll of people's favourite Michael Powell film.
Don't forget to include a "None of the above" category. I'm also interested in people who don't like them.

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Yawn! (is there a 'Yawn' smiley?)

All the polls thusfar are so mainstream; how about something a bit different?
Maybe favourite London locations film?
Favourite film located outside London?
Favourite James Robertson Justice film?
Favourite scene from a film?
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(Steve Crook @ Sep 15 2005, 11:02 PM)
As it's his centenary year, what about a poll of people's favourite Michael Powell film.
Yeah but we all know the real genius was that cheeseburger bloke...

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Favourite scene from a film?
Given there are thousands of scenes how do you narrow it down to about 15 for a poll?


Oooohh an automerge feature... never noticed that.
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Given there are thousands of scenes how do you narrow it down to about 15 for a poll?
Oooohh an automerge feature... never noticed that.
Fair enough; I was just thinking aloud.

OK then, how about favourite Science Fiction Film?
There are just over 20 listed on the main site here
Omit Harry Bloody Potter, and pick the 15 best known and go for it??
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Fair enough; I was just thinking aloud.

OK then, how about favourite Science Fiction Film?
There are just over 20 listed on the main site here
Omit Harry Bloody Potter, and pick the 15 best known and go for it??
That list doesn't include one of the best SF films - Wallace & Gromit: A Grand Day Out (1989)
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