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Old 18-05-2008, 06:46 PM
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I thought Dame Judi was very good in Notes on s Scandal, that gradual slip into being a self-centred sociopath through to cutting a rather tragic figure with the press camped on her doorstep.
Yes, she was very good in that. It was a fine film, one of last year's best.

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Old 18-05-2008, 07:03 PM
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Btw, I will never understand why Richard Todd is not "Sir". It should have happened a long time ago. It's a deplorable oversight.

At least he has an OBE.
In the case of Toddy it is understandable why he didn't get a K - when his career was in it's zenith (50s to early 60s) film actors didn't get such honours. It wasn't until the 70s when Chaplin (one of the poineers of film) and in the lavender list when Atty, Milsy and Baker (who got his for supporting the Labour party) got theirs. By that time Toddy was doing rep in South Africa and taking small roles in minor films and didn't have the status he once had. He might have been luckier during his very long run in The Business of Murder (9 years) in the West end in the 80s. Since then he hasn't taken any major roles in film, theatre or TV apart from a drama playing H G Wells opposite John Duttine's George Orwell. He was superb in that and one of the best parts he's ever had IMHO but that is the most significant thing he has done in the last 20 years.
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Thanks Windy, I suppose that explains it. I had presumed he had done a lot more theatre in the UK over the years. Anyway, I just love him to bits and he is such a legend (if that's the right word) it would be nice to see him knighted. A bit strange for me to say that, because I don't really believe in knighthoods per se, I think that sort of thing is archaic, however, it's a fact of life and "Sir Richard Todd" has a nice ring to it!
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Let us digress a moment ..... I was once in a production of "Juno and the Paycock." I played 'The Mobilizer'. After murdering a member of the cast onstage we dragged him off into the wings. He stood there for a few moments giveing us this glazed eye look and breathing very heavily. He looked like he was going to pass out, I asked him "What's wrong?" .... "It's OK" he said, "I'm de-motivating" ...... he then slumped into a heap on the floor and needed to be put in the recovery position!
If only a few more of them would remember he old adage about acting being about remembering your lines and not bumping into the furniture!

Re: Julie Walters - if she ever gets made a Dame I will hand back my MBE.

.....oh hang on - I havne't got one. DAMN.
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One of the givens of Scottish cinema seems to be that if you show a character who's miserable, the audience will automatically care. But I think RED ROAD and RATCATCHER and some of the others show that this is not necessarily the case.
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That's an interesting one - I also find it interesting that a lot of writers now are asking us to 'care' about the most awful protagonists such as the Simon Pegg characters or as in the vast majority of the new American 'comedies' 'Employee of the Month' etc..they seem to think it is enough to bung in a 'nan' that they actually deign fit to talk to as if this entirely redeems their otherwise scoundrel characters...

Oh - a 'postive' 'Given' upturned - that small screen successes don't really translate to the big screen - I thought Mitchell and Webb's 'Magicians' was funnier than Peep show.
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I just wondered if there are any accepted 'Given's' - or accepted 'viewpoints' that you find difficult to 'go along with' in the world of film.

Anyway - here are mine: Judi Dench is not actually a particularly good 'actress' - she is an interesting character herself and plays herself quite well - but her range is just about limited to that.. (I think this is probably a view held by quite a few people, mind you..)

I think some people make period films (Jane Austen adaptations particularly) to pander to some people's desire to imagine themselves living in that kind of lifestyle - not because the story merits that much attention..there should be a new genre which can alert the rest of us to this - we could call it 'Wannabeeism'. Does it matter? I don't know - but to expect us to take it seriously seems a bit much..

I hope I haven't upset too many people with the last few statements - but it is honestly how I feel - please feel free to point out where I might be wrong

Or, better still - add your own! As long as there is reasoning - I can't see any harm in it?

Apologies, I always come to these threads a little late, but I find the criticism of Jane Austen difficult to understand. I can accept that the themes she explores are not to everyones taste, but can anyone really doubt the merit of the actual writing?

Unlike some other Britmovie contributors I have no connection with the film or theatre industries, but as a lay person I'll bet anyone a £10 that in 200 years time film and tv audiences and countless readers will be appreciating Dickens, Shakespeare and the like. In particular, I believe Charles Dickens wonderful writing will continue to appeal to all ages and all classes(?) of people, for ever.

I have no such expectations of ANY modern writers. Any suggestions for alternative superstars?

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