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Old 15-03-2005, 01:16 PM
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I like thick british accent even though i`m not from the UK and all movies i see with the thick accent has been brilliant ( sweet sixteen, the full monty, trainspotting ), but sadly i dont know anymore movies with thick accent,
so can you guys help me by listing the good british and irish movies where the people talk inthick language ?

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Originally posted by Patsy@Mar 15 2005, 01:16 PM
I like thick british accent even though i`m not from the UK and all movies i see with the thick accent has been brilliant ( sweet sixteen, the full monty, trainspotting ), but sadly i dont know anymore movies with thick accent,
so can you guys help me by listing the good british and irish movies where the people talk inthick language ?

thanx in adv
Not quite sure what you're on about.

Thick language? Do you mean people who have no brains?
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Old 15-03-2005, 03:01 PM
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Thick language? Do you mean people who have no brains?
The likes of Sweet Sixteen came with English subtitles and Trainspotting was dubbed in the US.
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Trainspotting was dubbed in the US.
Only partially - the idea was to slightly tweak the opening reel to ease people into the Edinburgh accents, so Begbie's opening monologue and Spud's interview were revoiced by the original actors. The remaining reels were exactly as shown in British cinemas.

Both Andrew Macdonald and Danny Boyle had seen the US mutilation of Gregory's Girl, which was entirely revoiced by different actors into supposedly milder Scottish accents (thus completely destroying the freshness and spontaneity - I watched about ten minutes on US TV but couldn't stand any more) and were determined to avoid the same thing happening to them - and I have to say they did a pretty good job: unless you know the scenes in question have been redubbed, it's not obvious.
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Originally posted by Patsy@Mar 15 2005, 01:16 PM
I like thick british accent even though i`m not from the UK and all movies i see with the thick accent has been brilliant ( sweet sixteen, the full monty, trainspotting ), but sadly i dont know anymore movies with thick accent,
so can you guys help me by listing the good british and irish movies where the people talk inthick language ?

thanx in adv.
Try Gone to Earth (1950). That has Jennifer Jones (& the rest of the cast) doing a very good Shropshire accent.

Or you could try I Know Where I'm Going! where all the minor characters have quite thick Highland accents (some of them are even genuine Highlanders) and they also speak Scottish Gaelic without any subtitles.

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Try Gone to Earth (1950). That has Jennifer Jones (& the rest of the cast) doing a very good Shropshire accent.
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Any film that employed a thick Potteries (Stoke-on-Trent) dialect would definitely need subtitles.

Example: "Hey, youth, cost kickabow agin a wow an yed it till thee bosts it, cost?"

Translation: "I say, you there, young fellow! Can you kick a ball against a wall and head it until you burst it?"

Example: "Owd up a touch, wut?"

Translation: "Hold on a minute, there, would you?"

Okay, so I live in Stoke-on-Trent and have done so for the past fifty years, since I was eight years old, but I still speak proper Stockport, which is more understandable than proper Potteries.
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If you want accents, buy a Proclaimers recording - 500 Miles was popular in the 90s.

Last Orders with Michael Caine, David Hemmings, etc.

A Brit abroad would be The Limey with Terrence Stamp.

Thick or strong accents were discouraged at one time for the Drama school or Queen's (proper) English. Thick accents were popular in WWII era films and Beatles era. Michael Caine is a south of the river accent that has been classed up a bit - unique. He has spoken about accents. And, James Bond Connery has an Edinburgh accent that is softened and anglicized.

If you are an American with accent happiness, look for older movies.

Movies made about northern, western counties or the East End (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels) will generally have thicker accents.

From Scotland, I think of Local Hero.

Wales, How Green was My Valley (but that was much a projection by John Huston).

I don't know any NI movies?

From Ireland, My Left Foot.

For you Brits....Americans (we that is) generally have a strong attraction to accents, but it depends on who the person is and what the accent is - times have changed. Also, there is a certain anti-British element in our society that dislikes Britain for certain cultural reasons and I'm not talking about the American Revolution. This is played up to for certain marketing reasons. All the same, I would say most still love a thick country accent. And, Liverpudlian still rates high for the obvious reasons.

Patsy, if you go to London, don't get your collar felt or get in a barney in L'pool. Bangers and mash are good for breakfast. If someone in Scotland tells you that they have a fiver there not telling you about their banking account - get some aspirin. And a good Welsh word that is well known is crumpet, but in these days, if you mention that you would like one, I would quickly add that with tea. And, up in Yorkshire if you want to be local and only want a bit of milk in your coffee, instead of white, it's nobbut a mention.

Here is a British Isles dialect link
http://www.netaxs.com/~salvucci/EngDialLnx.html

Here's a global one
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~...tool/wwwlinks/

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We showed it in Much Wenlock (where a lot of it was filmed) and I made a point of asking the locals what they thought of the accents. They all agreed they were pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty good.

When we got stories about the filming from the locals, a lot of them said how friendly Jennifer was, going up to everybody and talking to them for some time. They didn't realise she was tuning her ear to the accent

A lot of the the local expressions like "Ye'r nesh" was straight out of the book.

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For you Brits....Americans (we that is) generally have a strong attraction to accents, but it depends on who the person is and what the accent is - times have changed. Also, there is a certain anti-British element in our society that dislikes Britain for certain cultural reasons and I'm not talking about the American Revolution. This is played up to for certain marketing reasons. All the same, I would say most still love a thick country accent. And, Liverpudlian still rates high for the obvious reasons.

Patsy, if you go to London, don't get your collar felt or get in a barney in L'pool. Bangers and mash are good for breakfast. If someone in Scotland tells you that they have a fiver there not telling you about their banking account - get some aspirin. And a good Welsh word that is well known is crumpet, but in these days, if you mention that you would like one, I would quickly add that with tea. And, up in Yorkshire if you want to be local and only want a bit of milk in your coffee, instead of white, it's nobbut a mention.

Here is a British Isles dialect link
http://www.netaxs.com/~salvucci/EngDialLnx.html

Here's a global one
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~ling80/tool/wwwlinks/

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These may be a small set of islands but the range of accents is still quite large.
It's interesting to find things like children's truce words (pax, fainites, barley etc) or the differnt words people use for left-handed or anti-clockwise

National television does quite a lot to produce a "standard English" that just about everyone understands but if you sit quitely in a pub and listen to the locals talking to each other it can be quite educational.

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These may be a small set of islands but the range of accents is still quite large.
It's interesting to find things like children's truce words (pax, fainites, barley etc) or the differnt words people use for left-handed or anti-clockwise

National television does quite a lot to produce a "standard English" that just about everyone understands but if you sit quitely in a pub and listen to the locals talking to each other it can be quite educational.

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Righto. Those are the places to get the real deal (Am). Nothing like your local (Br).

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I think Patsy is referring to more recent film releases.
To me there is no thicker accent than that of the Geordies and that comes through strongly in the film PURELY BELTER (2000).
Many of producer Ken Loach's films involve 'working class' accents including
THE NAVIGATOR'S (2001) Yorkshire accents
MY NAME IS JOE (1998) Broad Scottish accents.
RIFF RAFF (1990) A mixture of many different broad accents.
All are excellent films as are most of Ken Loach's work.

As you state that you're not from Britain Patsy it begs the question - can you understand what is being said in films with "thick British" being spoken?
Obviously you enjoy them anyway

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David,

What would you call a Black Country accent transplanted to Queensland?

Industrial Aus? Aussie Pom?

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As you state that you're not from Britain Patsy it begs the question - can you understand what is being said in films with "thick British" being spoken?
Obviously you enjoy them anyway
You`re absolutely right, i love it. Like when i first blind bought trainspotting, i couldnt understand most of it ( especially begbie and spud ) but i watched it 4 times with subtitles and now i go used to it and i know every single word.

BTW, guys, i am planning on buying riff-raff from amazon cause it has robert carlyle so thanks for the suggestion, are there anymore ?
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You`re absolutely right, i love it. Like when i first blind bought trainspotting, i couldnt understand most of it ( especially begbie and spud ) but i watched it 4 times with subtitles and now i go used to it and i know every single word.

BTW, guys, i am planning on buying riff-raff from amazon cause it has robert carlyle so thanks for the suggestion, are there anymore ?
Patsy, for a South Yorkshire accent you might also look at Kes, made in 1968/69 . The cast was mostly local actors from Barnsley, my dear home town.

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