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Old 26-07-2005, 12:53 PM
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Hi all, just had a mail from a production company looking for a list of fact or loosely-based crime thrillers for use in a CH4 doc.

Any additions to this list would be appreciated:
Ordinary Decent Criminal
Robbery
Jack the Ripper
The Young Poisoner's Handbook
The Krays
Wanted for Murder
The Great Riviera Bank Robbery
10 Rillington Place
Dance With A Stranger (1985) about Ruth Ellis the last woman to be hanged

Let Him Have It - Derek Bentley story with the excellent Christopher Eccleston (another version was made much earlier in the 1950s or 60s)


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Others based on real cases were made many years/decades after the original cases, like The Ripper and Christie so there's a good chance that some of the real stories were corrupted with a bit of folklore.
You're going to have that problem with telling any story based on real events. Either the full facts aren't known or it's coloured by folklore or opinion.

The Attenborough film about Christie, 10 Rillington Place (1971), was based on Ludovic Kennedy's very well researched book but must of course also include something of Ludo's and Dickie's own views and they're both quite liberal.

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You're going to have that problem with telling any story based on real events. Either the full facts aren't known or it's coloured by folklore or opinion.

The Attenborough film about Christie, 10 Rillington Place (1971), was based on Ludovic Kennedy's very well researched book but must of course also include something of Ludo's and Dickie's own views and they're both quite liberal.

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Whenever I've read up or watched documentaries on a few awful murderers etc, apart from being monstrous people for the crimes they committed, many seem to have lived incredibly dull and dreary lives in a sort of mundane twilight existence. To make something absolutely factual could result in a not particularly interesting movie so I suppose the characters have to be given a bit of personality with a few contrived incidental events in their lives otherwise we'd be very disappointed.

I must admit I'm not a great fan of such movies because you always know the outcome, and injustice metered out to Derek Bentley and to some extent Ruth Ellis makes you feel pleased that the death penalty was abolished! Then when you see a film like The Black Panther you wish it hadn't been!

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Whenever I've read up or watched documentaries on a few awful murderers etc, apart from being monstrous people for the crimes they committed, many seem to have lived incredibly dull and dreary lives in a sort of mundane twilight existence. To make something absolutely factual could result in a not particularly interesting movie so I suppose the characters have to be given a bit of personality with a few contrived incidental events in their lives otherwise we'd be very disappointed.
No matter how terrible a thing it is that someone's done, the media will always manage to find at least one person who says "He was always so polite and so quite. And he was good to his Mum"

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In Cold Blood:

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Hi all, just had a mail from a production company looking for a list of fact or loosely-based crime thrillers for use in a CH4 doc.

Any additions to this list would be appreciated:
Ordinary Decent Criminal
Robbery
Jack the Ripper
The Young Poisoner's Handbook
The Krays
Wanted for Murder
The Great Riviera Bank Robbery
10 Rillington Place
McVicar starring Roger Daltrey.

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Originally posted by DB7@Jul 12 2005, 09:59 AM
Hi all, just had a mail from a production company looking for a list of fact or loosely-based crime thrillers for use in a CH4 doc.

Any additions to this list would be appreciated:
Ordinary Decent Criminal
Robbery
Jack the Ripper
The Young Poisoner's Handbook
The Krays
Wanted for Murder
The Great Riviera Bank Robbery
10 Rillington Place
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid loosely based on the life stories of real outlaws! Bonnie and Clyde as well.

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