Swearing And Nudity

[connoisseur]

Kenneth Tynan was first with the F word but I well remember the SECOND person to say it on TV. Ken Russell and Alexander Walker the late film critic were jointly interviewed on some film programme which escapes my memory. Russell got extremely heated over something Walker said and he spat at him, "Well if you like America so much, why dont you f... off there?"

Shock/horror all round.

Dont know the exact year but it would have been very early in Russell's career.

[batman]

It still amazes me that Johnny Rotten using the F-word on Bill Grundy's programme caused such a stink in 1978. The same year the F-word was used in Pennies From Heaven and I can't recall much fuss being made about that.



Bats.

[silverwhistle]

name='Cypher']I trust that I never bump into you silverwhistle on the streets of Glasgow. I would raise my hat and say "excuse me; I do beg your pardon" and your 'only conceivable immediate response' would be "WTF?!" Sounds like a comedy sketch!!



C.

Hardly. That's just what I'd shrug off as quirky behaviour. It's not the kind of deeply weird stuff that prompts my more extreme exclamations, such as historical novels that turn people I've researched and know to have been delightful and interesting into sadistic perverts (see Graham Shelby, Kings of Vain Intent); some of the subgenres of the US-written historical romance genre; or cinematic abominations such as Braveheart.

[silverwhistle]

name='Fellwanderer']Well said, silverwhistle.



I rarely swear and only in front of people I'm comfortable with - although I'm sure that sounds odd!



However, I have no problem whatsoever with "bad" language if it is used to emphasis a point and not simply used gratuitously.

Yes. There are times when one is confronted by something so mind-numblingly crass or dreadful that respectable language doesn't go far enough to express the disgust/contempt/frustration with it.



And in film, the point is, does it fit the character, his/her social milieu, and the context? A clergyman will express himself differently from a squaddie, but he may still let rip if he traps his hand in a cupboard door!

[Steve Crook]

name='connoisseur']Kenneth Tynan was first with the F word but I well remember the SECOND person to say it on TV. Ken Russell and Alexander Walker the late film critic were jointly interviewed on some film programme which escapes my memory. Russell got extremely heated over something Walker said and he spat at him, "Well if you like America so much, why dont you f... off there?"

Shock/horror all round.

Dont know the exact year but it would have been very early in Russell's career.

It's the best thing for anyone to say to Alexander Walker



Steve

[Steve Crook]

name='batman']It still amazes me that Johnny Rotten using the F-word on Bill Grundy's programme caused such a stink in 1978. The same year the F-word was used in Pennies From Heaven and I can't recall much fuss being made about that.



Bats.

Ah but one was ART whereas the other was real life



Steve

[batman]

name='Steve Crook']Ah but one was ART whereas the other was real life



Steve

Are you saying that punk wasn't ART .... .



Bats.

[Steve Crook]

name='batman']Are you saying that punk wasn't ART .... .



Bats.

Bill Grundy certainly wasn't. Goading them to be naughty. He was more like a wicked uncle



Steve

[batman]

name='Steve Crook']Bill Grundy certainly wasn't. Goading them to be naughty. He was more like a wicked uncle



Steve

Bats.