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Old 09-09-2007, 09:29 AM
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Yes, my Mum used to buy a sheep's head from the butcher and she'd ask him to leave the eyes in so it would see us through the week! Boom Boom!
Lambs brain on toast, delicious...a childhood treat, that.


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The only TV chef I really watch now is the gorgeous James Martin who still practices traditional cooking. Coincidentally, he's very easy on the eye too................but, sadly, young enough to be my son!

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what gets me about Hells Kitchen is the fact that none of the so called celebs. seem to do anything, but at the end of the programme seventy odd meals have been served . Have they been channelled in through the back door from gordon ramseys kitchen i wonder.
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The only TV chef I really watch now is the gorgeous James Martin who still practices traditional cooking. Coincidentally, he's very easy on the eye too................but, sadly, young enough to be my son!

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He used to work in Castle Howard. The only cook I like watching is Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall,because everything is done in the countryside. I find Ray Mears very interesting,but some meals he cooks up out in the wild.....yuk. That's survival.
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He used to work in Castle Howard. The only cook I like watching is Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall,because everything is done in the countryside. I find Ray Mears very interesting,but some meals he cooks up out in the wild.....yuk. That's survival.
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'Fraid I'm a little bit if a coward, Marky!
I love meat - but I don't want to see where it comes from. I love animals - and, even if I DO eat them, it wouldn't be one of my own that I'd raised, petted and named. And I always buy my mushrooms and berries because I wouldn't trust my own judgement in the woods either!
Anyway, why put yourself to all that trouble when Sainsburys does it all for you?

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All these memories, of good old traditional English (British) food, awakens deep set longings for a taste of them.

Thanks for the memories..

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All these memories, of good old traditional English (British) food, awakens deep set longings for a taste of them.

Thanks for the memories..

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It's not just the traditional food, JL, - it has to be cooked in the traditional way as well to get the right flavour! I use a cookery book from c. 1910 - the modern ones don't cover many aspects of traditional cooking.
You cannot make a cottage/shepherd's pie with fresh mince; the proper flavour is only achieved because the meat is roasted first.
'Scuse me - I'm off for my roast dinner.............

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There's an awful lot of food snobbery around in the UK, and people will eat aything as long as it's not British! But people forget that our traditional menu has evolved over hundreds of years to suit the conditions of the country.

Food containing lots of animal fat was essential for people working out in the cold and damp, especially up t' north. A lot of the meat bought was the cheapest because working class folk couldn't afford proper cuts, and so belly pork, pig's trotter, tripe, various offal etc were essential.

Here on the warmer south coast people tend to eat lots of ice cream and pink seaside rock, and if the weather turns cold sometimes they stay indoors in amusement arcades eating Candy Floss!

Instead of burger chains selling all sorts of bits of a cow ground into a pulp and griddled as burgers, why not sell fast food roast beef in a bun! A decent slice of beef with mustard or horseradish, full of the good stuff that gives you energy and keeps you going and not a Stars n' Stripes flag in sight!

Instead of tasteless bleached bits of chicken in a bucket with chips, why not Shepherd's Pie! Good quality meal, easy to cook and can be served in a disposable container with a plastic fork, great stuff! But no, unless it's from Lebanon, Italy, India or France and difficult to pronounce correctly we all turn our noses up at it!

Especially people from places like Camberwell Green and Crouch End who would dearly love to be French and aspire to owning a damp, rat infested chateau and drive around Provence in a tatty old Renault 4 van wearing black berets with the rear doors swinging open and a French Stick poking out of the roof, and converse almost fluently the old woman at the boulangerie, who was a Nazi collaborator in the war!
Fat is also essential for taste. You don't have to eat it all but it should at least be there when you cook it. Very lean meat is often tasteless.

I don't turn my nose up at any food. I might raise my nose to smell it better
I like to explore different cuisines but I always come back to good British cooking (or possibly Chinese, with a bit of Italian)

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The only TV chef I really watch now is the gorgeous James Martin who still practices traditional cooking. Coincidentally, he's very easy on the eye too................but, sadly, young enough to be my son!

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I think one of the best chefs who appears on TV occasionally is Richard Corrigan. He doesn't shout and swear at his staff, he doesn't have tantrums, he's a great host and he loves good food. Good, basic wholesome food.

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'Fraid I'm a little bit if a coward, Marky!
I love meat - but I don't want to see where it comes from. I love animals - and, even if I DO eat them, it wouldn't be one of my own that I'd raised, petted and named. And I always buy my mushrooms and berries because I wouldn't trust my own judgement in the woods either!
Anyway, why put yourself to all that trouble when Sainsburys does it all for you?

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Precisely because you don't know that it's been well looked after during its life. Whereas if you have raised, petted and named it then you know its had a happy life. And if you check the abattoir then you can be sure it's had a good death as well and will provide you with the best possible food.

But it is impractical for most of us omnivores to raise our own animals. However we should make our best efforts to make sure that it's been raised, treated and killed in the best way possible. So that cuts out almost everything with chicken in it from any big supermarket, and most things involving beef as well.

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But no, unless it's from Lebanon, Italy, India or France and difficult to pronounce correctly we all turn our noses up at it!

Especially people from places like Camberwell Green and Crouch End who would dearly love to be French and aspire to owning a damp, rat infested chateau and drive around Provence in a tatty old Renault 4 van wearing black berets with the rear doors swinging open and a French Stick poking out of the roof, and converse almost fluently the old woman at the boulangerie, who was a Nazi collaborator in the war!

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I consider your comments to be inflammatory, ignorant and bigoted despite the thin veil of your "humour".
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Fat is also essential for taste. You don't have to eat it all but it should at least be there when you cook it. Very lean meat is often tasteless.

I don't turn my nose up at any food. I might raise my nose to smell it better
I like to explore different cuisines but I always come back to good British cooking (or possibly Chinese, with a bit of Italian)

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I once knew a butcher who said fat on meat gave it plenty of juices - I think:it was a while ago.
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I once knew a butcher who said fat on meat gave it plenty of juices - I think:it was a while ago.
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It helps to keep it moist. You should always let meat rest for a few minutes between taking it off of the heat and serving it. It needs to relax for best flavour, moistness and tenderness.
Mince used for burgers should have some fat in if you grill or barbecue them, otherwise they dry out quickly with the intense heat of both cooking methods.

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Precisely because you don't know that it's been well looked after during its life. Whereas if you have raised, petted and named it then you know its had a happy life. And if you check the abattoir then you can be sure it's had a good death as well and will provide you with the best possible food.

But it is impractical for most of us omnivores to raise our own animals. However we should make our best efforts to make sure that it's been raised, treated and killed in the best way possible. So that cuts out almost everything with chicken in it from any big supermarket, and most things involving beef as well.

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The only problem with that, Steve - and I'm being honest here - sometimes people on low incomes don't have deep enough pockets to be able to have a conscience when shopping. Unfortunately, I've been there for a few years now.
However, I do know exactly what you are saying.

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The only problem with that, Steve - and I'm being honest here - sometimes people on low incomes don't have deep enough pockets to be able to have a conscience when shopping. Unfortunately, I've been there for a few years now.
However, I do know exactly what you are saying.

Starry x.
Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall put paid to that idea with some episodes of his series The River Cottage Treatment. It does seem logical that eating the supermarket's bargain lines would be cheaper but he showed that you can eat much better food for the same price (or even cheaper). It just needs a bit more deliberation.

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