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    Senior Member Country: England paul kersey's Avatar
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    I realise that I may be letting myself in for a possible fatwa again !
    It is still almost a year away from the London Olympics. Do you feel that the TV coverage is already bordering on the excessive ? If it continues at the present rate, I have a nasty feeling that many of the presenters will explode with excitement by the end of next week. I live in the east of England, both local news programmes have tried to whip up enthusiasm by focussing on our contribution to the festivities, even though Suffolk is hosting the training for Gymnastics for a couple of Countries and Gt Yarmouth (Norfolk) has a lovely beach and therefore may be hosting a training camp for Beach Volleyball. I very much doubt that it will be possible to sustain Public interest at this level for the remaining 362 days before the event starts.
    The BBC is spending 50-60 million on TV rights for the Olympics and so I would imagine that every conceivable part of the games will be shown, via the four BBC TV channels. In fact even the torch carrying is to be shown live,
    London 2012 Olympics: BBC to follow torch relay ‘every mile of the way’ - Telegraph.
    In closing, was I alone in feeling very uncomfortable when ITV News reported that the Olympics has so far cost 9 Billion to stage and then featured the African Drought/Famine as its next story? Were they trying to say something?
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    We're force-fed it at work, as LBG was the first corporate sponsor. I delete all the emails straight away. I'm not aware that Stamford or, heaven-forbid, Peterborough (a place I go to once a year if I can help it), are Olympic sites.

    Nick

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    Administrator Country: Wales Steve Crook's Avatar
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    A few days ago some geezer formally invited all the athletes to London because it was exactly a year to go until the Olympics starts.

    That means it's only a year and a bit until the Olympics ends and we can get our city back (and start clearing up the mess)

    Not all Londoners happy ahead of 2012 Olympics - USATODAY.com

    Steve

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    Senior Member Country: England paul kersey's Avatar
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    It is nice to feel that I am not alone, so far!.
    I was very interested to see that Paul Donovan, a member of the East London Business Alliance, believes that if succesful the Olympics will be seen as good "free" advertising. Ye gods, 7-9 billion =free advertising . I keep away from London as much as possible, but I can't see how London will be able to cope with the planned influx of visitors. I wonder if it would have been better if the Olympics had been shared around Britain, it could have used some of the existing facilities such as those built for the Commonwealth games in Edinburgh + Glasgow and Manchester, the World Student games in Sheffield, Cardiff has the Millenium stadium and Northern Ireland has a new stadium planned to replace Windsor Park. Had these facilities been used, it may have allowed the British public to feel involved with the project, it would have diluted the mass influx of visitors and would have saved money.
    If I may go off at a tangent, I note that the British government has put aside 600,000,000 to cover security. Will this sum be sufficent and do you trust the Metropolitan police to spend it. Given the way that they have Policed the Student protests etc and considering that they would be dealing with International Terrorists, coupled with the recent events in Norway, my blood runs cold at the prospect.

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    Administrator Country: Wales Steve Crook's Avatar
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    It would also stop those northerners moaning about everything in the country being focused on London and the SE

    It is crazy that the Olympics have to be held in a city and not in a country. It's also crazy the way they assume that everyone is interested in sport. It just ain't true.

    Steve

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    Work on the 2012 London bid began as far back as 1997. In late 2000, the British Olympic Association delivered a report to Parliament, the Greater London Authority and former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone outlining the proposed bid. During 2002, the Commons' Culture, Media and Sport Committee conducted an in-depth report into the bid, published in January 2003. The Prime Minister indicated his backing for a London bid in April 2003, but it was not until May 2003 that the Government officially threw its weight behind the bid and allocated 2.375 billion to the costs of staging the Games. At the time of the bid the estimated cost of the Games was 4 billion: 3 billion for the Olympic Park and an element for elite and community sport; and 1 billion as part of the wider Lower Lea Valley regeneration (excluding tax and wider security costs). Following a review by the Government a revised funding cost was announced in March 2007 of 9.32bn.
    London 2012 Olympics
    Babbling Billions

    Blair Pledges:
    We will set tough rules for government spending and borrowing and ensure low inflation and strengthen the economy so that interest rates are as low as possible to make all families better off.

    Well, he got the inflation and low interest rates bit right, just not the way we expected...........

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    Senior Member Country: Wales David Challinor's Avatar
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    I actually think there's a real problem for those trying to sell the Olympics - and sell through tie-in advertising - to UK audiences, in part because we're [in general] such a football obsessed country. So the Premier League starts very soon, and for the great unwashed how man u and chelsea etc are doing will be far more involving and interesting for many months than whether Christine Ohuruogu will get a medal or not...and then there's the rugby world cup, and football's Euro 2012 tournament which is in June /July 2012 - if England do well in that many won't care how many flips Tom Daly has to do before he hits the water....in all honestly, right now I'm amused to be looking forward to witnessing how public transport in this country SHOULD run, even if it is for just the two weeks of the Olympic Games next summer: before, of course, when all our Olympic guests are gone, it returns to the crap standard we all know and loath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Challinor View Post
    I actually think there's a real problem for those trying to sell the Olympics - and sell through tie-in advertising - to UK audiences, in part because we're [in general] such a football obsessed country. So the Premier League starts very soon, and for the great unwashed how man u and chelsea etc are doing will be far more involving and interesting for many months than whether Christine Ohuruogu will get a medal or not...and then there's the rugby world cup, and football's Euro 2012 tournament which is in June /July 2012 - if England do well in that many won't care how many flips Tom Daly has to do before he hits the water....in all honestly, right now I'm amused to be looking forward to witnessing how public transport in this country SHOULD run, even if it is for just the two weeks of the Olympic Games next summer: before, of course, when all our Olympic guests are gone, it returns to the crap standard we all know and loath.
    Well, contrary to what the doom-mongers have said, it doesn't look as if they'll be many empty seats at any Olympic events (except, possibly football ) so it seems that some people will be interested. I'll certainly be watching (and attending though not as much as I'd like owing to over-whelming interest from others )

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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Mark O's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett View Post
    Well, contrary to what the doom-mongers have said, it doesn't look as if they'll be many empty seats at any Olympic events (except, possibly football ) so it seems that some people will be interested. I'll certainly be watching (and attending though not as much as I'd like owing to over-whelming interest from others )

    I most certainly interested Cap'n, I'm not attending but I'll be watching, even though I'm not particularly sports minded it's the embracement of the spirit of something I enjoy doing, I can't be doing with negativity, it just makes one miserable lol, we had a rehearsal down my way for the mountain biking event yesterday, thousands watched, Tom Daley christened the mega-sized pool and I heard on the Radio a childrens playground which will remain after the event was opened last week, I'm sure even the doom-mongers wouldn't deny kiddies somewhere to play, I can't get enough of the Olympic spirit myself, roll it on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    It would also stop those northerners moaning about everything in the country being focused on London and the SE

    "'In the North West it rains and rains. And yet we managed to produce the Industrial Revolution, trade union movement, the Communist Manifesto and even the goddam computer. Down South, where the Sun never sets, you took all our money and what did you produce? Chas and fucking Dave." Tony Wilson, 2007.



    It is crazy that the Olympics have to be held in a city and not in a country. It's also crazy the way they assume that everyone is interested in sport. It just ain't true.

    Steve
    Looking forward to the Olympics though have to agree it would have been better to have it spread across the country, they do it with the world cup so why not the Games.

    Of course the icing on the cake would be to have Michael Winner's The Games on tv as a run up to the events

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul kersey View Post
    I realise that I may be letting myself in for a possible fatwa again !
    It is still almost a year away from the London Olympics. Do you feel that the TV coverage is already bordering on the excessive ? If it continues at the present rate, I have a nasty feeling that many of the presenters will explode with excitement by the end of next week.
    It doesn't surprise me, Easter eggs in the shops after Christmas and Christmas decorations in the supermarkets in September, we tend to spread things out and dilute it.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark O View Post
    I most certainly interested Cap'n, I'm not attending but I'll be watching, even though I'm not particularly sports minded it's the embracement of the spirit of something I enjoy doing, I can't be doing with negativity, it just makes one miserable lol, we had a rehearsal down my way for the mountain biking event yesterday, thousands watched, Tom Daley christened the mega-sized pool and I heard on the Radio a childrens playground which will remain after the event was opened last week, I'm sure even the doom-mongers wouldn't deny kiddies somewhere to play, I can't get enough of the Olympic spirit myself, roll it on!
    Being a doom-monger is very cheering. I cheer every time thay make another cock-up in the organisation of this event

    Whoop-de-doo. A children's playground. That makes the billions of pounds worthwhile
    How many children's playgrounds were there already in the area?

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    That means it's only a year and a bit until the Olympics ends and we can get our city back (and start clearing up the mess) Steve
    Yes - but the debts will go on and on and on and on................

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    Senior Member Country: Great Britain Mark O's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    Being a doom-monger is very cheering. I cheer every time thay make another cock-up in the organisation of this event

    Whoop-de-doo. A children's playground. That makes the billions of pounds worthwhile
    How many children's playgrounds were there already in the area?

    Steve
    Probably none being brown field, I would have thought with you being so proud to be a Londoner you'd be welcoming this event to our great capital city, I take it you have no objecting to annual events that are held in Trafalgar Square like Gay pride and St. George's day celebrations, etc; they're for everyone to enjoy just as much as the forthcoming Olympics and Queen's Diamond jubilee are, plenty of horses in use wherever royalty is concerned, but c'est la vie, if you don't want to join in the spirit of things that's entirely your prerogative, but it's not really fairplay to wish ill on it all, I guess I wont be seeing you in the new shopping centre that opens next month then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    It would also stop those northerners moaning about everything in the country being focused on London and the SE



    Steve
    Why would we moan about the Olympics ? There's no place for pigeon and whippet racing so we have no interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark O View Post
    Probably none being brown field, I would have thought with you being so proud to be a Londoner you'd be welcoming this event to our great capital city, I take it you have no objecting to annual events that are held in Trafalgar Square like Gay pride and St. George's day celebrations, etc; they're for everyone to enjoy just as much as the forthcoming Olympics and Queen's Diamond jubilee are, plenty of horses in use wherever royalty is concerned, but c'est la vie, if you don't want to join in the spirit of things that's entirely your prerogative, but it's not really fairplay to wish ill on it all, I guess I wont be seeing you in the new shopping centre that opens next month then!
    If it's really a brown field site then nobody lives there - so where will the children come from that will play in this multi-billion pound playground?

    As so often, you select a few examples that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed. I have no objection to any of the events you mention because they're all over in less than a day. The Olympics will drag on and on ad nauseum. We will also have wall to wall television coverage even if we don't choose to go there. It'll be even worse than Wimbledon or one of those interminable gold or snooker tournaments that seem to go on for months.

    Those other events, when they do involve horses, don't have the horses living in a London park for a month and destroying it with the huge amount of shit & piss that they'll produce. I wonder how long it will be before anything grows in Greenwich Park?

    I don't wish ill on the event or on anyone who wants to join in. I just laugh at it when each next thing goes wrong

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    If it's really a brown field site then nobody lives there - so where will the children come from that will play in this multi-billion pound playground?As so often, you select a few examples that have nothing to do with the subject being discussed. I have no objection to any of the events you mention because they're all over in less than a day. The Olympics will drag on and on ad nauseum. We will also have wall to wall television coverage even if we don't choose to go there. It'll be even worse than Wimbledon or one of those interminable gold or snooker tournaments that seem to go on for months.Those other events, when they do involve horses, don't have the horses living in a London park for a month and destroying it with the huge amount of shit & piss that they'll produce. I wonder how long it will be before anything grows in Greenwich Park?I don't wish ill on the event or on anyone who wants to join in. I just laugh at it when each next thing goes wrong Steve
    Yes, but people will live there Steve, the playground is a legacy for the future after the Olympics have been and gone for another sixty odd years, as is the stadium, swimming pool, etc; it's all for we, the people, to enjoy, and I'm certainly going to enjoy it, puts me in mind of all fuss concerning the Millenium dome, did you go in 2000 Steve?............I did, twice, and loved every minute of all those different zones and everything else, yet in the media it was nothing but negative after negative publicity, made me enjoy it even more to be honest.

    As for the horse 'waste' that bothers you so much, I'm sure they'll have experts to clear it up, as for paying for it all, people who work in London receive a hefty 'weighting allowance' (as I've no doubt you're a beneficiary of) so they're not really paying for it at all, what's a couple of quid here and there to all you mega-buck earners, after all a good Socialist as yourself is always willing to share the fruits of their labour, aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark O View Post
    Yes, but people will live there Steve, the playground is a legacy for the future after the Olympics have been and gone for another sixty odd years, as is the stadium, swimming pool, etc; it's all for we, the people, to enjoy, and I'm certainly going to enjoy it, puts me in mind of all fuss concerning the Millenium dome, did you go in 2000 Steve?............I did, twice, and loved every minute of all those different zones and everything else, yet in the media it was nothing but negative after negative publicity, made me enjoy it even more to be honest.As for the horse 'waste' that bothers you so much, I'm sure they'll have experts to clear it up, as for paying for it all, people who work in London receive a hefty 'weighting allowance' (as I've no doubt you're a beneficiary of) so they're not really paying for it at all, what's a couple of quid here and there to all you mega-buck earners, after all a good Socialist as yourself is always willing to share the fruits of their labour, aren't they?
    Oh well that's all right then. The playground will be there for when they build some houses in the area, in 60 years time

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crook View Post
    Oh well that's all right then. The playground will be there for when they build some houses in the area, in 60 years time

    Steve
    They'll be building homes a bit before then Steve I reckon, they're starting to build a large number of homes in the Dagenham Dock/Creekmouth area, all in conjunction with the DLR extension, on my journey to work recently I've been passing a large poster on a bus shelter saying 'All children have the right to play', something I wholeheartedly agree with, I really don't understand why you're so hung up about a few Horse droppings, alright, if grass is soiled just replace it with a new bit of turf, they may even have 'nappies' for the Horses, we'll have to wait and see, if Greenwich Park is permanently 'ruined' you can blame all we supporters if you like, but I very much doubt it will be, if it's because you're denied access for a couple of weeks why not have a stroll on Clapham Common instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark O View Post
    if it's because you're denied access for a couple of weeks why not have a stroll on Clapham Common instead.
    Is there something you two want to tell us all

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