emmawilsonpres

oh my god how disturbing is this programme??????? i watched the last series with older animals and i just looked at it as food but this series is warped!!!
baby animals getting killed for my tea?!! or even killed for no pupose what so ever its wrong does any1 else feel the same or am i just soft??

Carmel

No i found this series disgusting, im sorry but but when i eat my dinner i dont want to think of the suffering that poor animal had to get to my plate, i like my meat so i would't make a good vegitarian so its best not watching these kind of programmes.

Live each day to the full because one day it will be your last.

Steve Crook

They are pushing it to the limit with this series, asking about suckling pig and very young calves & lambs. These are quite a niche market at best. I'd have thought they would have done better to stick to the regular supply chain like they did in the first series. That was a very good series and they did a worthwhile job.

The animals aren't being killed for your tea, unless you decide to pay the premium to buy their meat. And they certainly aren't being killed for no purpose

Steve

joeydaniels30

The theme of making us think hard about what goes into food preparation seems to be continuing with the new Chicken Run programmes that have been on. Still, you get what you pay for in food terms I suppose. If we don't like it, we don't have to buy it.

Steve Crook

Do I detect a bit of bandwagon jumping from Jamie "I'm a cockney" Oliver? This is a campaign that Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has been doing for a while now. Especially with his River Cottage Treatment series where he invited people hooked on junk food to his River Cottage and showed them not only the terrible conditions the animals were kept in to produce their food but also that with a bit of thought, it was usually cheaper to make the same foods themselves - and of course that was a lot tastier.

And Hugh doesn't do adverts for a big supermarket chain

Steve

DB7

I took some time out in my teens and thought a summer job on a farm might suffice to keep me in beer money, but within a week of seeing what goes on in chicken sheds I had to walk. The trouble is families on low incomes do have to buy it and aren't in a position to make a moral choice based on animal welfare.

DB7

To his credit Mr Oliver has criticised Sainsbury's this week, and rumour is he shops in Waitrose. So he can kiss goodbye to the advertising contract when it ends.

Steve Crook

Yes, I know. But it still comes at a price. Are we prepared, as a country, to allow such cruelty just so that everyone can have their chicken kievs?

The price of battery chickens is disgustingly low. And that's what goes into any ready meal or takeaway that contains chicken.

They don't have to be up to the highest organic free-range standards but applying some basic welfare standards would increase the price a bit so maybe Mr & Mrs Chav and the Chavettes would have to have a meatless day or two every week. But is that really so terrible? It wouldn't have been thought so 30 or so years ago but now we have got ourselves into the situation where everybody expects to be able to eat such things every day. And the price of that is what you saw in your summer job - except that it's now so industrialised that it's many times worse

Steve

DB7

I would imagine if the government phased out such conditions then the price of free range would gradually fall as the larger farms entered the market, but whilst there's a fiver gap it will be difficult to convince those in the poverty trap. ('Chavs' is unfair as there are millions of children below the poverty line)

Steve Crook

There are cheaper ways to eat than by buying ready meals and take-aways. But not many people seem to know how to cook nowadays. That's why they're all so fascinated by all the cooking programs on TV

Steve

DB7

I dunno, I do wonder if noughties cooking shows are just replacing the 90s makeover shows. Maybe they should do a show about how to lay decking whilst cooking a chicken. Maybe next it'll be car maintainance!

glyn horton

True, and there are quite a few pensioners in poverty too, not all of whom are able to easily prepare and cook meals.

DB7

I couldn't agree more, many already scrimp on heating at this time of the year so the price of food has to be economical. (esp after the NPower rises kick in)

Steve Crook

BTW I have just noticed that the title of this thread is cook it kill it eat it!!!! disturbing!!!

I much prefer to cook things after they've been killed
I should think it would be disturbing if you tried to cook things that were still alive

Steve

Dame Starry

I don't have BBC3 so I haven't seen it - I did notice that nice chappie, Julian Bradbury, is in it though.
I only watch Saturday Kitchen now - there is only one TV chef:



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