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CaptainWaggett · 29-03-2008, 08:42 PM

Also Goodwin was working from quite limited sources anyway. He certainly didn't have access to the full KW diaries. Has anyone except for Russell Davies who edited them been ableto use the manuscripts? There must be some fantastic stuff there.

mariocki · 29-03-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by batman

Here's the amazon page for books about TH ....

Amazon.co.uk: tony hancock: Books

I notice from that list Bats that there's another biography due out later this year. Anyone know anything about it?
Amazon.co.uk: Tony Hancock: What Kind of Fool: The Definitive Biography: John Fisher: Books

GRAEME · 29-03-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett

Also Goodwin was working from quite limited sources anyway. He certainly didn't have access to the full KW diaries. Has anyone except for Russell Davies who edited them been ableto use the manuscripts? There must be some fantastic stuff there.

I often wonder if I'm mentioned in them...

He put his arm round me one night in Newcastle Central Hotel and he might have mentioned it. That night is missing in the published text.

Either I didn't make an impression - although I was young and pretty back then - or he didn't make an entry that night.

(Er... No smutty comments about that last line please!

)

Chris OD · 30-03-2008, 04:17 PM

I'm with Hhhhancock on Ken Stott. I haven't watch Hancock and Joan, although I thought that "The Curse of Steptoe and Son" was pretty good, but for me, Ken Stott is Rebus. I remember seeing John Hannah, normally a fine actor, playing him and it was all wrong. He was too young, too skinny and far too good looking. Stott has that wonderful, potato-faced, lived in look that Ian Rankin describes so brilliantly in his books. It's just a tragedy that there will be no more Rebus books - or will there? "Shiv" had quite a big part in "Exit Music", so maybe, she will carry on with advice from the Man. Let's hope so.

smudge · 30-03-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mariocki

I notice from that list Bats that there's another biography due out later this year. Anyone know anything about it?
Amazon.co.uk: Tony Hancock: What Kind of Fool: The Definitive Biography: John Fisher: Books

John Fisher is well versed in British comedy - he was the creator/producer of the original HEROES OF COMEDY 2hr documentary and producer of the subsequent series. He also penned the recent Tommy Cooper biography, which I have yet to obtain. So the new book should be reasonably written...

Smudge

sheriff_bart · 30-03-2008, 04:58 PM

Alfred Molina did a better job with it back in 1991.
here the imdb link

Hancock (1991) (TV)

torillian · 15-04-2008, 04:04 PM

I am new to hancock (and this board .. this is my first post) .. after hearing my dad and grandad bang on about his comedy genius (I wasn't born until 1970 so missed him the first time round) .. but I really enjoyed this and has made me want to learn more about him ... this site has been a great in helping me as it was the first one I visited when trying to find out more about Joan's relationship with Tony .. I have even managed to track down a copy of Joan's book on amazon for a bargain £40 :)
How things may have been different ... I would love to meet her..

Steve Crook · 15-04-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by torillian

I am new to hancock (and this board .. this is my first post) .. after hearing my dad and grandad bang on about his comedy genius (I wasn't born until 1970 so missed him the first time round) .. but I really enjoyed this and has made me want to learn more about him ... this site has been a great in helping me as it was the first one I visited when trying to find out more about Joan's relationship with Tony .. I have even managed to track down a copy of Joan's book on amazon for a bargain £40 :)
How things may have been different ... I would love to meet her..

Make sure you get some examples of his work as well. The radio shows are in some ways even better than the TV shows because they could paint a better picture on the radio

Steve

torillian · 15-04-2008, 05:09 PM

I will do ... I am trying to get some of the radio shows first ..

I know the man was a brilliant comedian, but also a complex character ... It's a shame I have come to him so late in life so to speak.

Thanks for your help :)

Shaz

Captain Casper · 17-04-2008, 12:27 PM

I can't see what was wrong with Ken Stott? His portrayal (and those of the rest of the cast from this Curse of Comedy season) wasn't mean to be an impersonation. His performance and Maxine Peake's were outstanding.

Spike Milligan or Charles Haughtrey next please.

Windthrop · 17-04-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Casper

Spike Milligan or Charles Haughtrey next please.

Who to play them ?

Captain Casper · 17-04-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Windthrop

Who to play them ?

Thats the hard part.

Steve Crook · 24-04-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torillian

I am new to hancock (and this board .. this is my first post) .. after hearing my dad and grandad bang on about his comedy genius (I wasn't born until 1970 so missed him the first time round) .. but I really enjoyed this and has made me want to learn more about him ... this site has been a great in helping me as it was the first one I visited when trying to find out more about Joan's relationship with Tony .. I have even managed to track down a copy of Joan's book on amazon for a bargain £40 :)
How things may have been different ... I would love to meet her..

Check out the NFT (BFI South bank) in June.
They're showing some of Hancock's films & TV appearances.
A rare chance to see them on the (reasonably) big screen

Steve

bhowells · 26-04-2008, 09:07 PM

Any Hancock fan out there who hasnt seen his second feature film,"The Punch and Judy Man.", do check it out, I dont think its half as bad as critics and fans have made out. There is something about that film that draws me back time after time.

I know it was made under unpleasant cirumstances with Tony's drinking causing problems on set but I think its a bit of a gem. The character of Wally Pinner was the anthesis of the Anthony Aloyisous Hancock character of tv and radio.

Also interesting to see Johnn Le Me Mesurier in a different kind of role as opposed to his normal civil servant roles.

Does anyone out there recall the series Tony Hancock made called Hancock for Atv in in 1963, supposed to have been a real mess by all accounts, Channel Four repeated at least one episode once on a Chrismtas Archive evening many years ago.

donna · 26-04-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Crook

Hancock was 44 when he died. But 44 in a chronic alcoholic can look like 60 in anyone else.

Steve

jeez was that the age he was ,my goodness thought a lot older than that, think it was the straw that broke the camels back with Hancock, sad too.

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29-03-2008, 08:42 PM	#31
CaptainWaggett is swimming in icy waters Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Posts: 3,945 Country: iTrader: (0)	Also Goodwin was working from quite limited sources anyway. He certainly didn't have access to the full KW diaries. Has anyone except for Russell Davies who edited them been ableto use the manuscripts? There must be some fantastic stuff there.

30-03-2008, 04:17 PM	#34
Chris OD has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: kent Posts: 21 Country: iTrader: (0)	I'm with Hhhhancock on Ken Stott. I haven't watch Hancock and Joan, although I thought that "The Curse of Steptoe and Son" was pretty good, but for me, Ken Stott is Rebus. I remember seeing John Hannah, normally a fine actor, playing him and it was all wrong. He was too young, too skinny and far too good looking. Stott has that wonderful, potato-faced, lived in look that Ian Rankin describes so brilliantly in his books. It's just a tragedy that there will be no more Rebus books - or will there? "Shiv" had quite a big part in "Exit Music", so maybe, she will carry on with advice from the Man. Let's hope so.

30-03-2008, 04:58 PM	#36
sheriff_bart has no status. Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Redcar, Cleveland Posts: 45 Country: iTrader: (0)	Alfred Molina did a better job with it back in 1991. here the imdb link Hancock (1991) (TV)

15-04-2008, 04:04 PM	#37
torillian has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London, England Posts: 8 Country: iTrader: (0)	I am new to hancock (and this board .. this is my first post) .. after hearing my dad and grandad bang on about his comedy genius (I wasn't born until 1970 so missed him the first time round) .. but I really enjoyed this and has made me want to learn more about him ... this site has been a great in helping me as it was the first one I visited when trying to find out more about Joan's relationship with Tony .. I have even managed to track down a copy of Joan's book on amazon for a bargain £40 :) How things may have been different ... I would love to meet her..

15-04-2008, 05:09 PM	#39
torillian has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London, England Posts: 8 Country: iTrader: (0)	I will do ... I am trying to get some of the radio shows first .. I know the man was a brilliant comedian, but also a complex character ... It's a shame I have come to him so late in life so to speak. Thanks for your help :) Shaz

17-04-2008, 12:27 PM	#40
Captain Casper has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 144 Country: iTrader: (0)	I can't see what was wrong with Ken Stott? His portrayal (and those of the rest of the cast from this Curse of Comedy season) wasn't mean to be an impersonation. His performance and Maxine Peake's were outstanding. Spike Milligan or Charles Haughtrey next please.

26-04-2008, 09:07 PM	#44
bhowells has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: merthyr tydfil south wale Posts: 640 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (0)	Any Hancock fan out there who hasnt seen his second feature film,"The Punch and Judy Man.", do check it out, I dont think its half as bad as critics and fans have made out. There is something about that film that draws me back time after time. I know it was made under unpleasant cirumstances with Tony's drinking causing problems on set but I think its a bit of a gem. The character of Wally Pinner was the anthesis of the Anthony Aloyisous Hancock character of tv and radio. Also interesting to see Johnn Le Me Mesurier in a different kind of role as opposed to his normal civil servant roles. Does anyone out there recall the series Tony Hancock made called Hancock for Atv in in 1963, supposed to have been a real mess by all accounts, Channel Four repeated at least one episode once on a Chrismtas Archive evening many years ago.