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18-02-2007, 03:09 PM
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Roy Galloway
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The Bill has gone completely down hill in the last 10 years
The Bill had become a shadow of its former self in the last 10 years. What was once a first rate police drama series has become a fourth rate trashy bloody soap opera. In the beginning, the programme focused on the job the majority of the time with the occasional storyline thrown in where it dealt with somebodies private life, but everything in the beginning was handled properly, professionally and realistically. The characters were more believable and convincing in the beginning as well e.g. Burnside, Galloway, Roach, Cryer, Martella, Dashwood, Brownlow, Conway, Ackland, Frazer, Monroe, Lines and Meadows are a few good examples, but nearly all the characters who have come along to Sun Hill after that Don Beech corruption scandal have been bloody diabolical. Also the number of coppers who have been killed off and raped in the last 5/6 years is getting bloody ridiculous. The programme has lost its grip on realism.
The only trouble is at this moment in time the programme is that bloody dreadful, they could do with another explosion to wipe out all the crap characters once and for all. Once all the crap has been taken out of The Bill, they need to revert the programme itself back to the Geoff McQueen way of doing things and bring as many old characters back to the programme as possible. Geoff created us some good programmes when he was alive e.g. The Bill and Big Deal are a couple of examples and his way of doing things was spot on. See below the complete list of characters who are currently starring in The Bill and by the side of each character I have indicated whether they should be axed or spared. Supt John Heaton - Axed DCI Jack Meadows - Spared Insp Gina Gold - Axed DI Neil Manson - Axed DI Samantha Nixon - Axed Sgt Dale Smith - Spared Sgt Nikki Wright - Axed DS Phil Hunter - Spared DS Stuart Turner - Axed DC Jo Masters - Axed DC Terry Perkins - Axed DC Kezia Walker - Axed DC Mickey Webb - Spared PC Dan Casper - Axed PC Will Fletcher - Axed PC Lewis Hardy - Axed PC Emma Hinckley/Keane - Axed PC Reg Hollis - Spared PC Leela Kapoor - Axed PC Diane Noble - Axed PC Tony Stamp - Spared PC Roger Valentine - Axed I haven't included Sgt June Ackland because she is about to depart from the show because Trudie Goodwin has had enough apparently and quite frankly I don't blame her for leaving this pile of sh*te behind. For those of you who despair with what has become of The Bill, please consider signing the following two petitions below and please read the front page statements first. Bring The Bill into line and revert it back to The Old Bill, the Geoff McQueen way of doing things that is. Petition Axe Paul Marquess altogether, from any capacity whatsoever in the television industry. Petition Last edited by Roy Galloway; 14-03-2007 at 10:21 PM. |
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18-02-2007, 07:52 PM
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thirdlady
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I miss all those coppers on the list!
it's not the same without them and I agree it's going downhill! "Happiness isn't sold in bottles you have to achieve it in your own lifetime!" |
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19-02-2007, 01:30 AM
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MarkG
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One thing I wonder is whether men in the UK have abandoned TV in droves the same way they have in America: I was reading an article a few months back saying that some vast percentage of men there now barely watch TV anymore, while women hadn't changed viewing figures much over the same time period.
That might help explain why they'd switch to soap opera storylines... though, of course, it could just be lousy writers! |
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19-02-2007, 08:16 AM
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This may have something to do with the fact that there are so many fly-on-the-cell-wall documentaries now about the police that the public is getting a little tired of it. The sort of inner city gangster drug and gun crime which seems to make up the bulk of The Bill's stories is being played out in reality on the news every week so people don't necessarily want to see similar stories on the box as entertainment because it's not! It's just rubbing our noses in the fact that over many years the lack of school discipline, parental control and a society so free that you can literally get away with anything these days, including murder, has created a monster that we can't control and so we just want to ignore it! That's possibly why more fantasy police shows are always popular; New Tricks, Life On Mars, Heartbeat, Midsomer Murders, Morse (now Lewis) etc because they don't deal with the everyday incidents with teenage scankers getting away with anything they want to, they usually just have the one murderer who is always brought to book and then we go off to our beds comforted and safe in the knowledge that justice has been done! Last edited by samkydd; 19-02-2007 at 08:20 AM. |
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19-02-2007, 08:18 AM
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samkydd
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Mind you, I saw the first episode when it was shown on TV several months ago and it wasn't much to shout about, in fact it made Crossroads look rather slick! Peter Dean (Pete Beale from Eastenders) played the tongue-tied cockerney station sergeant with all that painful wyming slang and words like "stweuth" and never ending strings of nonsensical dialogue, while a fresh faced Mark Wingett played the newly trained bobby PC Carver, and June Ackland was the young WPC.
Last edited by samkydd; 21-02-2007 at 07:24 PM. |
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19-02-2007, 10:30 AM
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Jim
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 My wife watches the Bill regularly and I sometimes sit in but they do struggle don't they? Also, those security doors where they punch in the code numbers don't have any 'latches' 'cos when someone passes through them, the doors swing back and forth!! Give me Taggart (the real one) anytime!! 
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19-02-2007, 11:15 AM
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MarkG
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I guess that kind of leads to another point: it's not just the Bill that's gone downhill in the last 10 years, but the real-world police. Ten years ago I could at least respect them, but today if you get burgled it's 'oh god, why did you bother calling us out?' while if you forget to pay your car tax disk for a couple of days there'll be a dozen cops sitting at the side of the road with a camera checking number plates.
So maybe the Bill is just reflecting reality. |
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19-02-2007, 11:19 AM
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DB7
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Maybe you should just accept that like many tv shows it has run its course and it's now time for the axe. I haven't watched it for years and don't even recognise half of those characters.
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19-02-2007, 11:36 AM
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Wolfgang
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I think it may be feminisation of TV that has precipitated fewer men watching it. You have to remember that TV is mostly commercial driven and woman is main consumer in society. Even male products such as razor blades, deodorant, and aftershave tends to be bought more by woman, so it makes sense to concentrate all advertising towards woman, and therefore all programmes at woman. Something like The Bill is not there to entertain man, it is there to sell Tampax and slimming products. BBC should be free of this bias, but unfortunately it seems to have got sucked into this maelstrom of emasculation. |
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19-02-2007, 11:53 AM
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harryfielder
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I'm sure this started out as ''Wooden Tops'' (now I leave out the tops)
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