Same music, different film.

[cassidy]

Watching Rio Bravo yesterday and listening to the Dean Martin song "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" not for the first time I realised that the melody is the same as "Settle Down" which is the theme music of "Red River". Both pieces of music by the great Dimitri Tiomkin, both films directed by Howard Hawks, and both starring John Wayne. Same music, different title and words. Are there any similar examples ?

[moonfleet]

I remember Leonard Cohen's I'm Your Man was in The Secretary (the film ) and I'm quite sure I heard it in another one but can't remember which ...

[Gerald Lovell]

There are many examples of this kind of thing, cassidy. For example, Max Steiner's music for The Lost Patrol (1934) was reworked into his score for Casablanca about a decade later.

[Flare Players]

Andrew Lloyd Webber did the music for Gumshoe in 1971 and some of the incidental music was reused in his version of Phantom of The Opera.

[moonfleet]

A famous one is the use of George Delerue's Camille for Godard's Le Mépris/Contempt in Scorsese's last great Casino, love that meeting scene in the desert, the use of the music is quite moving ...and magic

[batman]

Apart from the Bond theme itself, some of Monty Norman's incidental music for Dr No appears in From Russia With Love .... it's used when Bond bows up the helicopter. Also, the theme music from Universal's Rathbone/Holmes series is used in Son Of Dracula.

[Marky B]

There were similiarities to Sir Malcolm Arnold's music for The Inn Of The Sixth Happiness and The Heroes Of Telemark. However,if you listen to the music of The Bride Of Frankenstein,you might engage in the sound of the future Bali Hai from South Pacific.
Ta Ta
Marky B

[moonfleet]

In Stephen Frears' Prick Up Your Ears, when they are on the beach in Moroco, it's the same musical theme as in the beach scene in Some Like It Hot it's very funny and a moving hommage

[sidney bliss]

The Carry Ons were very good at this sort of thing - Carry On Cabby theme gets jazzed up for the Banquet scene in Again Doctor and the theme from again doctor is used as incidental music during "Convenience". Also snippets of Carry On music are used in some of the "Doctor" films......or is that the other way round?

[Sweeney Todd]

Parts of the same music are used in both "The Hideous Sun Demon" and "Night of the Living Dead". The music of "House of Frankenstein" was re-used in one of the two first "Zé do Caixao" movies by José Mojica Marins. In UK, "Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street" and "The Mystery of the Mary Celeste" share the same music.

[moonfleet]

Parts of the same music are used in both "The Hideous Sun Demon" and "Night of the Living Dead". The music of "House of Frankenstein" was re-used in one of the two first "Zé do Caixao" movies by José Mojica Marins. In UK, "Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street" and "The Mystery of the Mary Celeste" share the same music.

Hi Mr Todd

"Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street" and "The Mystery of the Mary Celeste"

Are they both with Tod Slaughter ??

[cassidy]

What I'm talking about here is not just the music. It's the same piece of music but two different sets of lyrics set to the same tune.

[Gerald Lovell]

Hi Mr Todd

"Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street" and "The Mystery of the Mary Celeste"

Are they both with Tod Slaughter ??

Tod Slaughter is in the first one, Bela Lugosi in the second, which was a very early Hammer film.

[Sweeney Todd]

Both movies also share two actors, Graham "Ben" Soutten and D.J. Williams. Unfortunately "The Mystery of the Mary Celeste" only exists now in the truncated US version, "The Phantom Ship", and the character played by D.J. Williams, a judge, is totally eliminated in the process. The music, incidentally, was composed by Eric Norman Ansell, but he is uncredited in "Sweeney Todd".

[Dave Rattigan]

One of Franz Waxman's themes from A Place in the Sun (1951) was rearranged for Rear Window (1954). One was on strings, the other on clarinet -- can't remember which way round!

[Reeldigger]

One of my favorite movie music re-threads occurs in Warner Brother's Deception, a Bette Davis vehicle which Irving Rapper directed. The New York classical music scene provides the backdrop but a cello concerto (composed by Claude Rains' character but "played" by Paul Henreid) plays a key part in the story. Rather than writing an entire work from scratch, composer Wolfgang Erich Korngold depended heavily on themes from his old scores, especially The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex and Between Two Worlds. It's really a beautiful piece that was recorded back in the 70s by the National Philharmonic Orchestra with Charles Gerhardt conducting.

[MikeB]

Malcolm Arnold reused his theme for 'Bridge on the River Kwai' in 'Dunkirk' the next year, or at least it sounds so similar you'd think he had. The John Williams theme for Born on the Fourth of July' crops up in the trailers for Branagh's Hamlet, although Patrick Doyle is credited on the latter film.

[Reeldigger]

The John Williams theme for Born on the Fourth of July' crops up in the trailers for Branagh's Hamlet, although Patrick Doyle is credited on the latter film.

This is a very common practice that's been going on for decades. Frequently a trailer is produced before the score has been recorded. I recall a trailer for an Arnold Schwartzenegger film (Red Sonya) which featured music from Clash of the Titans. Going back to the 30s, the trailer of Son of Frankenstein used music from Bride of Frankenstein.

[Gerald Lovell]

This is a very common practice that's been going on for decades. Frequently a trailer is produced before the score has been recorded. I recall a trailer for an Arnold Schwartzenegger film (Red Sonya) which featured music from Clash of the Titans. Going back to the 30s, the trailer of Son of Frankenstein used music from Bride of Frankenstein.

The music for Son of Frankenstein was composed very, very last minute I believe so presumably that's why they had to use the available Bride music for the trailer. Ironically, the music for Son was later re-used constantly by Universal in such films as Tower of London and House of Dracula.