Shane

[film fun]

Watched the film 'Shane', that I recorded the other day. I Have not seen this films for years and thought I may as well record it. I was so glad I did as it now seems even better. Yes, I know its a great film but having seen it a few times years ago I thought 'might as well' A great film. Really enjoyed it again.

[Steve Crook]

"Shane! Come back!"



Steve

[film fun]

No its .....shane come back. Come back shane'

[Steve Crook]

No its .....shane come back. Come back shane'

I get confused with all that gingham on show

Steve

[cassidy]

A classic western, interesting to note the film credits which include Walter Jack Palance who plays Jack Wilson the gunfighter whose nearly every move makes the dog slink away. Lovely background scenery, Elisha Cook's backward slam into the muddy street, and that wonderful ride away to Victor Young's fabulous score. By the way, I like it as well.

Watched the film 'Shane', that I recorded the other day. I Have not seen this films for years and thought I may as well record it. I was so glad I did as it now seems even better. Yes, I know its a great film but having seen it a few times years ago I thought 'might as well' A great film. Really enjoyed it again.

[narabdela]

I remember it particularly for the fabulous background of The Grand Tetons.

(...and just found out recently that this translates as The Big T*ts. )

[Heinrich]

A classic western, interesting to note the film credits which include Walter Jack Palance who plays Jack Wilson the gunfighter whose nearly every move makes the dog slink away. Lovely background scenery, Elisha Cook's backward slam into the muddy street, and that wonderful ride away to Victor Young's fabulous score. By the way, I like it as well.

Ah! Victor Young. What a fabulous score. That was back when Hollywood knew how to make pictures with a moral for an appreciative audience.
Where did it all go wrong?


1) Prelude 2) The Tree Stump and 3) Cemetery Hill

[Timmy_Lea]

Ah! Victor Young. What a fabulous score. That was back when Hollywood knew how to make pictures with a moral for an appreciative audience.
Where did it all go wrong?


1) Prelude 2) The Tree Stump and 3) Cemetery Hill

It didn't. Hollywood movies are still conservatively moralistic.

Anyway, Shane is great. Alan 'high heels' Ladd is wonderful.

[Heinrich]

It didn't. Hollywood movies are still conservatively moralistic. ...

I did not make myself clear; I never intended to suggest the old movies were moralistic, only that they had a simple message of good triumphing over evil where the demarcation line was clear. A town of ordinary down-to-earth farming folk being terrorized by a gunslinger. A hero was needed and Shane rode in. The wild west was being transformed by civilization but the gunmen were obstructing this progress. Soon there would be law and order and even the likes of Shane would have no place to go; he says so himself. It was a simple myth that appealed to the manifest destiny of the opening of the west and having to contend with some baddies.

Today, such good moral tales are gone. Hollywood no longer makes such stories for the general audience. Now it is car chases, crashes, explosions. Attacking foreign enemies, usually Arabs. CIA, FBI and the glorification of killing. Or an infatuation of rich people in New York or Los Angeles having love affairs in glamorous swanky mansions. Yep, it did go wrong, big time.

See the message at 7:00

[Steve Crook]

I did not make myself clear; I never intended to suggest the old movies were moralistic, only that they had a simple message of good triumphing over evil where the demarcation line was clear. A town of ordinary down-to-earth farming folk being terrorized by a gunslinger. A hero was needed and Shane rode in. The wild west was being transformed by civilization but the gunmen were obstructing this progress. Soon there would be law and order and even the likes of Shane would have no place to go; he says so himself. It was a simple myth that appealed to the manifest destiny of the opening of the west and having to contend with some baddies.

Today, such good moral tales are gone. Hollywood no longer makes such stories for the general audience. Now it is car chases, crashes, explosions. Attacking foreign enemies, usually Arabs. CIA, FBI and the glorification of killing. Or an infatuation of rich people in New York or Los Angeles having love affairs in glamorous swanky mansions. Yep, it did go wrong, big time.

What about all the superhero movies where the good guys come in to save the world, or the Die Hard or Rambo films where a fighter comes in to save all of the citizens in peril? They are still making lots of "Shane" type of films, they just don't set them all in the old West

Steve

[Film Man]

I remember setting up equipment to record an interview with Bette Davis...to break the ice I said what a wonderful director George (Shane) Stevens was. She paused for a moment and said....' Well, with the number of takes he took, 'you' could have made a film of equal quality!' The sort of quote one never forgets!

Film Man.

[Heinrich]

What about all the superhero movies where the good guys come in to save the world, or the Die Hard or Rambo films where a fighter comes in to save all of the citizens in peril?

As I wrote, car chases, explosions, machine guns, special effects, larger-than-life ridiculous comic book heroes.

They are still making lots of "Shane" type of films, they just don't set them all in the old West ...

There is, and always will be, only one Shane.

[Steve Crook]

As I wrote, car chases, explosions, machine guns, special effects, larger-than-life ridiculous comic book heroes.

There is, and always will be, only one Shane.

True, there will only ever be one Shane (or I hope that nobody will try to remake it)
But the basic story of the heroic stranger who is a fighter who comes to the rescue of the citizens has been repeated in many different films and suits the moralistic view that always has been preferred by Hollywood films

Even Shane, much as I like him, was really a larger-that-life comic book hero. Most Hollywood film portrayals of western gunfighters are (or the good guys). Nobody was really that good a gunfighter, but they give a strong moral message

Steve

[christoph404]

True, there will only ever be one Shane (or I hope that nobody will try to remake it)
Steve

Some would argue that it has already been remade by Clint Eastwood,..... "Pale Rider"....its almost a carbon copy of "Shane", the child is replaced by a young girl though.

[Steve Crook]

Some would argue that it has already been remade by Clint Eastwood,..... "Pale Rider"....its almost a carbon copy of "Shane", the child is replaced by a young girl though.

Yes, and Cat Ballou spoofs it in various ways. It is really quite a basic story without too much subtlety or ambiguity. The power of the Shane film is in the performances

Steve

[cassidy]

The book is excellent as well, the whole story is told through the eyes of Joey (Brandon De Wilde in the film). The difference is the gunfighter's name is Stark Wilson.

[Heinrich]

The book is excellent as well, the whole story is told through the eyes of Joey (Brandon De Wilde in the film). The difference is the gunfighter's name is Stark Wilson.

So sad about Brandon de Wilde dying at age 30 in real life when his vehicle overturned on a highway in Colorado, causing massive injuries from which he died the same day at a local hospital.

[Ray]

I remember setting up equipment to record an interview with Bette Davis...to break the ice I said what a wonderful director George (Shane) Stevens was. She paused for a moment and said....' Well, with the number of takes he took, 'you' could have made a film of equal quality!' The sort of quote one never forgets!

Film Man.

Bette always said that her favourite director was William Wyler, and he was notorious for the number of takes he took.

She said that he did 82 takes of her entrance in Jezebel, and then used one of the first!