The top ten movie psychopaths

[Dame Starry]

Originally Posted by batman Of all the characters, and a couple of real ones thrown in by me, named in this thread only one really annoys me ... Jack Nicholson in The Shining. That guy is suffering from an acute psychotic episode and doesn't strike me as being a psychopath.

I always thought that he was a man having a nervous breakdown - I never thought he was a psychopath.

DS x.

[batman]

Originally Posted by Dame Starry I always thought that he was a man having a nervous breakdown - I never thought he was a psychopath. DS x.

The two are very closely linked .... a 'nervous breakdown' if left unchecked can lead to the individual suffering an acute psychotic episode which could present with symptoms such as those Nicholson displays in the film.

[Third Man]

Originally Posted by batman I wish I could say the same for yours.

Sorry, I did'nt mean to get a personal reaction out of you, just making a statement that your opinion is your own, whether your case is sound or not is a moot subject.

My mental state I think is just fine

Simon

[batman]

Originally Posted by Third Man Sorry, I did'nt mean to get a personal reaction out of you, just making a statement that your opinion is your own, whether your case is sound or not is a moot subject. My mental state I think is just fine Simon

No problem. I won't be searching for you armed with a meat cleaver ... even if you do live in Ipswich.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Third Man Cannibalism is still an accepted practice with some South American tribes

Citation please.

Steve

[batman]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Patrick McGoohan Top Ten Sgt Musgrave - only heard about, never seen (just in case anyone has a copy?)

I was once in it, I played Pte Hurst. Without wishing to get into the psycho/not psycho debate again, I will simply say that Musgrave is completely off his rocker. I bet McGoohan was superb in this.

[Third Man]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook Citation please. Steve

James W. Dow

Reprinted from Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture, Vol. 1. Barbara A. Tenenbaum, ed. Pp. 535-537. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons

In recent times the Panoan, Yanomamö, and other lowland groups have consumed the ground-up bones and ashes of cremated kinsmen in an act of mourning. This still is classified as endocannibalism, although, strictly speaking, "flesh" is not eaten. The Yanomamö mix the bones and ashes with plantain soup before consuming the mixture.

There were two types of cannibalism in Latin America, exocannibalism, eating members of an enemy group, and endocannibalism, eating members of one's own group. The former was a celebration of victory over an enemy. The symbolic treatment of the enemy as a game animal was an extreme form of racism that served to heighten enthusiasm for warfare. In the times just after Brazil was colonized, the Tupinamba would go on raids against other Indian villages. If they were successful in killing the enemy, they would butcher the bodies, and feast on them in the jungle before returning home. If they captured live male prisoners, they took them back to the Tupinamba village where they allowed the prisoners to live for a time, sometimes for many years. After a ritual "escape," they would sacrifice, roast, and eat a prisoner.
Many cannibal people have expressed a taste for human flesh. From this, some observers have drawn the conclusion that human flesh was an important part of the diet; however, these gustatory expressions were highly symbolic. Desiring to eat the enemy was an expression of fierceness that elevated the status of the warrior and struck fear into his enemies.

Endocannibalism symbolized very different things: reverence for the dead, an incorporation of the spirit of the dead into living descendants, or a means of insuring the separation of the soul from the body. A Mayoruna man once expressed a wish to remain in his village and be eaten by his children after his death rather than be consumed by worms in the white man's cemetery.


Simon

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Third Man James W. Dow Reprinted from Encyclopedia of Latin American History and Culture, Vol. 1. Barbara A. Tenenbaum, ed. Pp. 535-537. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons In recent times the Panoan, Yanomamö, and other lowland groups have consumed the ground-up bones and ashes of cremated kinsmen in an act of mourning. This still is classified as endocannibalism, although, strictly speaking, "flesh" is not eaten. The Yanomamö mix the bones and ashes with plantain soup before consuming the mixture. There were two types of cannibalism in Latin America, exocannibalism, eating members of an enemy group, and endocannibalism, eating members of one's own group. The former was a celebration of victory over an enemy. The symbolic treatment of the enemy as a game animal was an extreme form of racism that served to heighten enthusiasm for warfare. In the times just after Brazil was colonized, the Tupinamba would go on raids against other Indian villages. If they were successful in killing the enemy, they would butcher the bodies, and feast on them in the jungle before returning home. If they captured live male prisoners, they took them back to the Tupinamba village where they allowed the prisoners to live for a time, sometimes for many years. After a ritual "escape," they would sacrifice, roast, and eat a prisoner. Many cannibal people have expressed a taste for human flesh. From this, some observers have drawn the conclusion that human flesh was an important part of the diet; however, these gustatory expressions were highly symbolic. Desiring to eat the enemy was an expression of fierceness that elevated the status of the warrior and struck fear into his enemies. Endocannibalism symbolized very different things: reverence for the dead, an incorporation of the spirit of the dead into living descendants, or a means of insuring the separation of the soul from the body. A Mayoruna man once expressed a wish to remain in his village and be eaten by his children after his death rather than be consumed by worms in the white man's cemetery. Simon

Do they give any dates when this was last done?
And I think it would have to be full cannibalism, eating the flesh, before you should use the term

Steve

[wellpip]

Definitely Javier Bardem in the movie No country for old men. Makes your blood run cold. Especially the scene in the garage with the poor owner.

All that was going through my head was Get Out of There!

[knobbykins]

Originally Posted by wellpip Definitely Javier Bardem in the movie No country for old men. Makes your blood run cold. Especially the scene in the garage with the poor owner. All that was going through my head was Get Out of There!

Good call!(twice).
I saw this last night and he's a really creepy git!!!

[Third Man]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook Do they give any dates when this was last done? Steve

The encyclopedia was published in 1996.

Originally Posted by Steve Crook And I think it would have to be full cannibalism, eating the flesh, before you should use the term

Maybe but it is a type of cannibalism and they are consuming human flesh that has been cremated, so was Hannibal Lector when he cut off the frontal brain lobe of one of his victims and flambayed it in a saucepan taking part in the act of cannibalism?

He is not eating the flesh

Simon

[batman]

Originally Posted by Third Man Maybe but it is a type of cannibalism and they are consuming human flesh that has been cremated, so was Hannibal Lector when he cut off the frontal brain lobe of one of his victims and flambayed it in a saucepan taking part in the act of cannibalism?

That scene gave me a headache!

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Third Man The encyclopedia was published in 1996.

Yes, I saw that (by looking it up). But the part you quoted doesn't say when the article was first written. It says they did this "in recent times" but when was that? In the 1990s? The 1940s? The 1800s?

It makes a difference.

Steve

[Third Man]

I very much doubt it was 1940' or 80's. I took the meaning of recent times as just having happened, begun or been done not long ago from the point of publication. Anyway I just sent James W. Dow an email to ask him, I'll post his reply if I get one.

Simon

[Third Man]

Well Mr Dow was very prompt with his reply.

He just replied and I quote - " It was written and published in 1996."

Simon