'Get Carter' voted worse remake - Britmovie

DB7 · 01-11-2004, 08:59 AM

STALLONE'S CARTER IS TOP FLOP Nov 1 2004

GET Carter starring Sylvester Stallone has been named the worst remake in film history.

The 2000 version of the 1971 Michael Caine classic beat Gus Van Sant's 1998 rehash of the Hitchcock masterpiece Psycho in a poll of 2,000 fans.

This year's Alfie, starring Jude Law in a role also made famous by Caine, came sixth in the survey by DVD rental firm ScreenSelect.co.uk.

The firm's founder, Alex Chesterman, said: "It proves you just can't beat Michael Caine."

He added: "Time after time, remakes fail to sparkle like the originals.

"The rehashed productions trade off fond memories of much-loved films."

The top 10 worst remakes listed in the YouGov poll were:

1 Get Carter.
2 Psycho.
3 Thunderbirds.
4 Assassin.
5 Charlie's Angels.
6 Alfie.
7 Planet of the Apes.
8 Starsky and Hutch.
9 Cape Fear.
10 Ocean's Eleven.

Lord Brett · 01-11-2004, 12:04 PM

This is ridiculous! Several titles on this list are perfectly good films - Starsky & Hutch and Oceans Eleven are arguably better than the originals, while Thunderbirds got a terribly raw deal from the critics.

Surely not enough people have seen Alfie yet to form an opinion either way, and what the devil is Assassin?

DB7 · 01-11-2004, 12:19 PM

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what the devil is Assassin? [/b]

The remake of Nikita (1990)?

Lord Brett · 01-11-2004, 01:00 PM

Ah, thanks - now I remember!

deckard · 01-11-2004, 01:22 PM

Mmm you may be right Lord Brett, they might well be perfectly good films, but I think that some of them should be original titles and not regarded as remakes because they bear slim resemblance to the originals. Regards, Decks.

Rob Compton · 01-11-2004, 01:43 PM

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Thunderbirds got a terribly raw deal from the critics.

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I agree my Lord - my 11 year old thought it was great, and I enjoyed it too! I think the critics were wrong on this one

rgds
Rob

DB7 · 01-11-2004, 02:11 PM

I'd nominate Jan de Bont's remake of The Haunting with Catherine Zeta-Jones - dreadful cgi twaddle. (House on Haunted Hill runs it close)

Paul E · 01-11-2004, 06:37 PM

A particularly criminal remake of a great film was the 1993 (American) remake of (the Dutch) The Vanishing from 1988. But true Sly's Get Carter was very very horrible too. The remake of Cape Fear was at least competent. I'm no expert on Starsky & Hutch but I don't think the current film is an actual remake of a previous one...or is it? The Oceans Eleven remake is a far better film than the original, as was the remake of Thomas Crown.

johnnny nova · 02-11-2004, 05:19 AM

One has to ask if the reason for the recent-rehash-rash isn't just an admission of creative bankruptcy. Note to producers: STOP! We need NEW classics of the high quality these originals established - or new movies improving on the INTENT of the original.

JamesM · 02-11-2004, 09:04 PM

It seems the people doing the poll hardly knew of any remakes and clutched at straws to provide their last answers. Oceans 11 fared quite well, as did Starsky and Hutch (which I would not even consider as a remake). I suspect they never knew the horror films mentioned were remakes.

I do think that Neil Jordan's The End of the Affair (1999) John Carpenter's "The Thing" buck the trend. Not bad considering the originals were good in their own right.

johnnny nova · 02-11-2004, 09:35 PM

Carpenter's "The Thing" WAS good! My vote for worst remake ever, and its not even on the list, is King Kong (197?).

Paul E · 03-11-2004, 11:20 AM

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It seems the people doing the poll hardly knew of any remakes and clutched at straws to provide their last answers. Oceans 11 fared quite well, as did Starsky and Hutch (which I would not even consider as a remake). I suspect they never knew the horror films mentioned were remakes.

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I quite agree - when you think of the wealth of wretched remakes to choose from to include these two films does suggest the poll respondents don't know their films!
I'm in no way of the opinion that remakes are necessarily bad though - I think the better remakes are ones that are designed to be enjoyed on their own merits - a classic case would be 'Breathless' - not a patch on Bout de Souffle but so different, by design, from its inspiration that it doesn't matter. The flip side is the pointless scene for scene Psycho remake.

Jim · 03-11-2004, 12:54 PM

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Carpenter's "The Thing" WAS good! My vote for worst remake ever, and its not even on the list, is King Kong (197?). [/b]

You're right there johnnny nova. I can watch 'The Thing" time and again and never tire of it!

But then I can watch "Bullshot" with Alan Shearman (brill), time and again (thanks to you, David Brent), and never tire of it :)

daisymum · 03-11-2004, 04:05 PM

The Scarlet Letter, The Time Machine, and Bedazzled are all conspicuous by their absence.

daisymum · 03-11-2004, 04:13 PM

Oh! And lest we forget Frankenstein, The Mummy, and The Wild Wild West. Poor Kenneth Branagh.

(And yes, I know The Mummy made a ton of money, but that still didn't make it any good necessarily.)

01-11-2004, 08:59 AM	#1
DB7 is just a prescription talkin' Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Shrops Posts: 6,088 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (10)	'Get Carter' voted worse remake STALLONE'S CARTER IS TOP FLOP Nov 1 2004 GET Carter starring Sylvester Stallone has been named the worst remake in film history. The 2000 version of the 1971 Michael Caine classic beat Gus Van Sant's 1998 rehash of the Hitchcock masterpiece Psycho in a poll of 2,000 fans. This year's Alfie, starring Jude Law in a role also made famous by Caine, came sixth in the survey by DVD rental firm ScreenSelect.co.uk. The firm's founder, Alex Chesterman, said: "It proves you just can't beat Michael Caine." He added: "Time after time, remakes fail to sparkle like the originals. "The rehashed productions trade off fond memories of much-loved films." The top 10 worst remakes listed in the YouGov poll were: 1 Get Carter. 2 Psycho. 3 Thunderbirds. 4 Assassin. 5 Charlie's Angels. 6 Alfie. 7 Planet of the Apes. 8 Starsky and Hutch. 9 Cape Fear. 10 Ocean's Eleven.

01-11-2004, 01:22 PM	#5
deckard has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall Posts: 480 Country: iTrader: (0)	Mmm you may be right Lord Brett, they might well be perfectly good films, but I think that some of them should be original titles and not regarded as remakes because they bear slim resemblance to the originals. Regards, Decks. __________________ "and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock"

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johnnny nova has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	One has to ask if the reason for the recent-rehash-rash isn't just an admission of creative bankruptcy. Note to producers: STOP! We need NEW classics of the high quality these originals established - or new movies improving on the INTENT of the original. __________________ XXX

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johnnny nova has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	Carpenter's "The Thing" WAS good! My vote for worst remake ever, and its not even on the list, is King Kong (197?). __________________ XXX

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01-11-2004, 12:04 PM	#2
Lord Brett is too blinking busy and needs a lie in Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 935 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (2)	This is ridiculous! Several titles on this list are perfectly good films - Starsky & Hutch and Oceans Eleven are arguably better than the originals, while Thunderbirds got a terribly raw deal from the critics. Surely not enough people have seen Alfie yet to form an opinion either way, and what the devil is Assassin?

01-11-2004, 01:00 PM	#4
Lord Brett is too blinking busy and needs a lie in Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 935 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (2)	Ah, thanks - now I remember!

01-11-2004, 02:11 PM	#7
DB7 is just a prescription talkin' Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Shrops Posts: 6,088 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (10)	I'd nominate Jan de Bont's remake of The Haunting with Catherine Zeta-Jones - dreadful cgi twaddle. (House on Haunted Hill runs it close)

01-11-2004, 06:37 PM	#8
Paul E has no status. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	A particularly criminal remake of a great film was the 1993 (American) remake of (the Dutch) The Vanishing from 1988. But true Sly's Get Carter was very very horrible too. The remake of Cape Fear was at least competent. I'm no expert on Starsky & Hutch but I don't think the current film is an actual remake of a previous one...or is it? The Oceans Eleven remake is a far better film than the original, as was the remake of Thomas Crown.

02-11-2004, 09:04 PM	#10
JamesM has no status. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,413 Country: iTrader: (0)	It seems the people doing the poll hardly knew of any remakes and clutched at straws to provide their last answers. Oceans 11 fared quite well, as did Starsky and Hutch (which I would not even consider as a remake). I suspect they never knew the horror films mentioned were remakes. I do think that Neil Jordan's The End of the Affair (1999) John Carpenter's "The Thing" buck the trend. Not bad considering the originals were good in their own right.

03-11-2004, 04:05 PM	#14
daisymum has no status. Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: here there & everywhere Posts: 30 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (0)	The Scarlet Letter, The Time Machine, and Bedazzled are all conspicuous by their absence.

03-11-2004, 04:13 PM	#15
daisymum has no status. Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: here there & everywhere Posts: 30 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (0)	Oh! And lest we forget Frankenstein, The Mummy, and The Wild Wild West. Poor Kenneth Branagh. (And yes, I know The Mummy made a ton of money, but that still didn't make it any good necessarily.)