Politics and Artistic Integrity

[Third Man]

Originally Posted by christoph404 He was exploring the origin of the Cuckoo Clock, but I think he got it all wrong.

That was when he got off the ferris wheel, it was the one from the top that we where originally talking about, something about metaphorical dots and people and would you miss them if one disappeared.


Simon

[batman]

The actress who Brando sent up to decline his Oscar for Don Corleone was soundly booed when she tried to read out his speech. Roger Moore, who was presenting the Oscar, claimed that in the confusion he took it home!

[christoph404]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook I thought it was "don't believe anything you read in the newspapers" Steve

oh yes, quite right, I would agree....don't believe anything..........

[Mark O]

Originally Posted by christoph404 He was exploring the origin of the Cuckoo Clock, but I think he got it all wrong.

Forgive my ignorance here, but are we talking about a scene from a Movie?........which one?

[batman]

Originally Posted by Mark O Forgive my ignorance here, but are we talking about a scene from a Movie?........which one?

The Third Man - Harry Lime's speech to Holly Martens in the ferris wheel scene.

"Then, he smugly delivers his famous, perverse monologue about Switzerland and cuckoo clocks [penned by Welles himself]. With murderous fluency, he contemplates the greater productivity of a warring, strife-ridden culture and civilization that is plagued by warfare and violence, versus a peaceful one. The corruptible Lime cynically justifies his black market criminal activities by recognizing that despite appearances, good and evil (black and white, peace and war, up and down, etc.) are complementary concepts. [Indeed, black marketing becomes a real necessity in an economy that faces severe shortages.] The monstrous Lime, with a charming and beguiling smile, equates the corrupt political intrigues of the Borgias to the artistic triumphs of Michelangelo and da Vinci:

In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed - but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long, Holly."

[Mark O]

Thank you for the info Bats!..........I don't think I've seen 'Third man', but it sounds a very interesting Movie!

[Marky B]

Originally Posted by Mark O Thank you for the info Bats!..........I don't think I've seen 'Third man', but it sounds a very interesting Movie!

Not only interesting,but entertaining.
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Marky B

[Mark O]

Originally Posted by Marky B Not only interesting,but entertaining. Ta Ta Marky B

Thank you Marky, I've just ordered it from Playcom, and at £5.99 for a two disc special you can't go wrong!

Looking forward to watching this Movie for the first time, I'll give my view of it afterward.......but I'm sure I'm in for a treat!

[Marky B]

One of my favourite scenes from the film is Bernard Lee trying to chase away the old man selling balloons.
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Marky B

[batman]

Originally Posted by Mark O Looking forward to watching this Movie for the first time, I'll give my view of it afterward.......but I'm sure I'm in for a treat!

You certainly are ..... great acting, writing, direction, cinematography, music and, above all else ... atmosphere!

[CaptainWaggett]

On the subject of the Third Man, does any one know exactly why Radford/Wayne morphed into Wilfred Hyde-White? I know there's an early script where his part is two people but were they actually offered the parts? It's years since I've seen it so I can't remember whether H-W is actually in Vienna or not (if he was, that would provide the explanation as Wayne was in a play for most of 1945-46). Maybe Reed felt their presence would turn it into too much of a comedy.

Perhaps I should watch it again...