The best James Bond that never was?

[jamesharris]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Fleming's Bond was a crashing snob wasn't he?

bit harsh..he was a product of Eton and embodied all that entailed.

[stevie boy]

Originally Posted by batman Yep.

Was Wexford ever in the frame to play Bond??

[jamesharris]

for M I always envisaged Tim Piggott Smith ( who is in QOS) or the late Ian Richardson.

[batman]

Originally Posted by jamesharris we agree about a lot of things I'm certainly not keen on Craig as Bond ( or indeed in the Invasion) but there are several elements of CR that don't work..its far too long, the "love story" with Vesper is totally unconvincing and Le Chiffre is a dull colourless villain. They use elements of the story but they are not enough to convince that I'm watching Bond..he's just a guy with the same name. I wasn't keen on the Brosnan films either

It certainly is too long, all that collapsing house stuff went on forever, and Le Chiffre was indeed dull. At times he was like the secondary villain, what with all those scary African dudes and creepy Mr White lurking in the background intimidating him.

I am really looking forward to the next one .... I am in a minority but I think Quantum of Solace is a great title.

[jamesharris]

Originally Posted by stevie boy Was Wexford ever in the frame to play Bond??

George Baker was in a restaurant at the same time as Ian Fleming was trying to sell the rights..in a bid to convince them Fleming went over to Baker and said " there's your James Bond there!"
Of course that could just have been Fleming being oppurtunist..Baker was never approached by EON for the role.

[davidb]

Originally Posted by batman Not with me .... I thought he was great! I agree with Moor in that TD had a lot more work to do following the long tenure of Sir Rog. I think he suffered a similar backlash to GL which was equally unfair.

the problem he had after taking over from roger ,is that he had to play the part deadly serious after rogers lighthearted take on it ,now the 2 dalton films can be taken out of context and the casual fan wonders why theres no" bond sillyness "in his films ,hence his unfair popularity

[jamesharris]

Originally Posted by batman It certainly is too long, all that collapsing house stuff went on forever, and Le Chiffre was indeed dull. At times he was like the secondary villain, what with all those scary African dudes and creepy Mr White lurking in the backgorund intimidating him. I am really looking forward to the next one .... I am in a minority but I think Quantum of Solace is a great title.

I don't mind the title but I'm not interested in the film

[Moor Larkin]

Originally Posted by jamesharris bit harsh..he was a product of Eton and embodied all that entailed.

Hard to see him in the movie Bond then. He always comes across to me as a resolutely lower-class boy made good, with a tinge of contempt for snobbery and seeing oneself as superior to the plebs.

No matter who's playing him.

[batman]

Originally Posted by stevie boy Was Wexford ever in the frame to play Bond??

Prior to Dr No IIRC GB claimed one of the producers wanted him but the other didn't so they asked Fleming to decide and he said 'no'. Connery got the nod despite IF's objections because both Harry and Cubby both wanted him.

[jamesharris]

Originally Posted by davidb the problem he had after taking over from roger ,is that he had to play the part deadly serious after rogers lighthearted take on it ,now the 2 dalton films can be taken out of context and the casual fan wonders why theres no" bond sillyness "in his films ,hence his unfair popularity

Much of it was marketing..LTK was poorly marketed and the pressbook for GE makes Dalton a scapegoat.

[jamesharris]

Originally Posted by batman Prior to Dr No IIRC one of the producers wanted him but the other didn't so they asked Fleming to decide and he said 'no'. Connery got the nod despite IF's objections because both Harry and Cubby both wanted him.

Baker has always said he was never approached.

[batman]

Originally Posted by jamesharris Baker has always said he was never approached.

I saw him tell that story during a TV interview.

[davidb]

Originally Posted by jamesharris Much of it was marketing..LTK was poorly marketed and the pressbook for GE makes Dalton a scapegoat.

i prefer bond without the gadgets anyway ,from russia with love ,ohmss ,fyeo ,ltk ,some of the later brosnan films returned to moore type sillyness and over reliance on gadgets ,only problem i had with cr was they should have had a clean sweep of actors ,dame judi shouldnt have been m ,sometimes the continuety in the bond films has been terrible ,felix leiters casting etc ,the baddie in living daylights turning up in goldeneye as bonds ally ?

[Marky B]

Originally Posted by donna but Marky will you come out the ocean weaing a bikini, now be honest would you???

I must admit,such a sight would chase people out of the cinema.
Ta ta
Marky B

[wadsy]

Originally Posted by batman Prior to Dr No IIRC GB claimed one of the producers wanted him but the other didn't so they asked Fleming to decide and he said 'no'. Connery got the nod despite IF's objections because both Harry and Cubby both wanted him.

I read that after filming "Tarzan's greatest adventure" with Gordon Scott,

that Connery was offered the "Tarzan" role & that he was interested but

the "Bond" deal came up instead. How opportune was that?

"Me Tarzhan"......