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Old 22-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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The film, "Death of a President," has been alternatively derided as a tasteless publicity, it depicts the assassination of President George Bush, has won an award at the Toronto film festival- this is outrageous, the cult of violence needs to be condemned, not applauded. I think this encourage terrorist to glamourize violance. What you think about this movie ?

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Although,I have no time for Bush or his lapdog,Blair,I don't wish them ill. If they wanted to make a point (if there was one),a fictitious President would have sufficed.
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Freedom of speech and expression and the ability to satirize are cornerstones of democracy.British cinema has produced outstanding films in the face of pressure from any kind of so called censor.
"Blimp" is a excellent example
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'infiniteintelligence', I am am afraid your use of grammar and punctuation is belying your monicker. All I can work out is that you think it is outrageous that this film, 'Death of a President', won an award at a Toronto film festival. I have not heard of this film before now so can comment upon it. I assume you have seen it or know all about it. Please can you tell us what it is about and why you make the above statement.
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One death might save thousands so I can understand the rationale - especially given his popularity throughout the world and in a country with lax firearms laws. Attempting to assasinate a US Pres is hardly a left field notion given attempts on Nixon, Reagan, Kennedy and all the way back to Lincoln.
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Not only is the idea not left field, it's not left wing either...
Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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If you assassinate him though, look what you get stuck with!
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Freedom of speech and expression and the ability to satirize are cornerstones of democracy.British cinema has produced outstanding films in the face of pressure from any kind of so called censor.
"Blimp" is a excellent example
Well, but freedom of speech should have some limitation. Check how people reacted for same topics here; Rotten Tomatoes Forums - "Death of a President"; this is outrageous.
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Well, but freedom of speech should have some limitation. Check how people reacted for same topics here; Rotten Tomatoes Forums - "Death of a President"; this is outrageous.
With freedom of speech comes responsibility. So I say nothing deliberately slanderous. Neither do I post witless threadstarters on multiple forums in an attempt to foster the 'Outrage' you so obviously demand, about what seems to be a thought-provoking film.
I think the term is troll, but as you're new here, I for one will give you the benefit of the doubt for a while...
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This is outrageous .The cult of violence needs to be condemned, not applauded.
This is a fictional story, and whilst I generally abhor the 'cult of violence' that is nowadays the main product of far too many film studios, what is really abhorrent is the real-life wholesale slaughter of people by the US-led "war on terror" - over 40,000 civilians (non-combatant men, women, children, babies) murdered by the US-UK coalition aggressors in Iraq alone since 2003 (see Iraq Body Count | DATABASE | Latest Updates) The cult of violence indeed needs to be condemned!
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penfold, IMHO, People talk about freedom of speech but in the same time they avoid "freedom of thought", if we are to form views about the concept's true nature and its rational limts, it is important to understand the various theoretical rationales for freedom of speech. By starting this thread my only point is to gather review of particular film expressing my own view, nothing to attempt to foster the 'Outrage' as you have pointed out.
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By starting this thread my only point is to gather review of particular film expressing my own view, nothing to attempt to foster the 'Outrage' as you have pointed out.
So why did you put "this is outrageous" in the subject for the thread?

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So why did you put "this is outrageous" in the subject for the thread?

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By putting "this is outrageous" I am expressing my own view, but it can not be considered as an attempt to foster the 'Outrage'.
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By putting "this is outrageous" I am expressing my own view, but it can not be considered as an attempt to foster the 'Outrage'.
Yes it can. You're biasing the discussion from the start.

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I'd hate to see GW sainted with martyrdom of any sort. Indicted, convicted and put away, yes... maybe on Anthrax Island, if Hannibal Lector wouldn't object.
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