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Old 22-03-2007, 09:40 PM
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'Was' being the operative word....time has not been over-kind...
OK, 'sexy' may have gone by these days, but she's still a lovely lady and she's gone through a hell of a lot ! I wish every 'star' was as keen to sit and natter with their fans as she is...

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what they going to call it? "Wicked witch of the West"?
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Old 22-03-2007, 09:57 PM
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OK, 'sexy' may have gone by these days, but she's still a lovely lady and she's gone through a hell of a lot ! I wish every 'star' was as keen to sit and natter with their fans as she is...

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Fair play to the lady...

Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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Old 22-03-2007, 10:26 PM
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Fair play to the lady...
Cheers Penfold -

Hope my text didn't come out like it was trying to shoot you down. Far from it - I was just trying to illustrate that some of our favourite ladies might have more curves that they'd like to admit these days, but they have matured nicely and are still quite delightful....

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Cheers Penfold -

Hope my text didn't come out like it was trying to shoot you down. Far from it - I was just trying to illustrate that some of our favourite ladies might have more curves that they'd like to admit these days, but they have matured nicely and are still quite delightful....

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Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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She may have had her faults,but life hasn't been that great under Tony Bliar.
Rising crime,
the NHS at its worst,
Education at an all time low,
Conning Parliament in to an illegal war (Iraq),
Creating a confused act over foxhunting,
Legalising sodomy on 16 year olds (like we needed it),
Gun and knife crime rising,
Lecturing us about "global warming",but quite happily fly all over the world to bury his head in the sand like an ostrich to ignore the problems in this country,
Promoting PC,
Signing up to the Human Rights edict,to keep his wife in coffers,
Despite his pledge to have a "clean government",we have now the most corrupt government in living memory,
His reform of the House of Lords (much needed),may as well kept the way it was for what is use it was.
In total,he is useless,his legacy is one of a total ineptitude...........the sooner he is gone,binned forever,the better.
Yes,I liked Margaret Thatcher..............and by God we need someone like her now. If I am unpopular by this statement,then so be it..........I am not joining the Anti -Thatcher club to favour friends. I am speaking my mind.........that is democracy,and I will stand by it.
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She may have had her faults,but life hasn't been that great under Tony Bliar.
Rising crime,
the NHS at its worst,
Education at an all time low,
Conning Parliament in to an illegal war (Iraq),
Creating a confused act over foxhunting,
Legalising sodomy on 16 year olds (like we needed it),
Gun and knife crime rising,
Lecturing us about "global warming",but quite happily fly all over the world to bury his head in the sand like an ostrich to ignore the problems in this country,
Promoting PC,
Signing up to the Human Rights edict,to keep his wife in coffers,
Despite his pledge to have a "clean government",we have now the most corrupt government in living memory,
His reform of the House of Lords (much needed),may as well kept the way it was for what is use it was.
In total,he is useless,his legacy is one of a total ineptitude...........the sooner he is gone,binned forever,the better.
Yes,I liked Margaret Thatcher..............and by God we need someone like her now. If I am unpopular by this statement,then so be it..........I am not joining the Anti -Thatcher club to favour friends. I am speaking my mind.........that is democracy,and I will stand by it.
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Seriously, apart from laying off some miners what did she do that was so bad? Her hands were tied over Falklands - you either defend your territories or give them all up so what could she do there? It was Poll Tax that finished her, but to be honest I can see more logic behind poll tax than council tax. Council services are primarily personal services (social care, travel facilities, library and leisure etc) rather than property services (dustbin collections), so it does make much more sense to have some system based on individual payments rather than property values which can see pensioners on lower incomes in decent houses subsidising everyone else.

By steering Great Britain towards modern industries she made it fourth most successful economy in world, and consequently she raised more people above poverty line than any other prime minister in history - and along with right to buy she has ironically done more for working class enrichment than any Labour government. Where you have winners you are always going to get some losers, and I do not deny she was hard, but I think her contribution to Great Britain was significant and mostly positive.
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Yes,I liked Margaret Thatcher..............and by God we need someone like her now. If I am unpopular by this statement,then so be it..........I am not joining the Anti -Thatcher club to favour friends. I am speaking my mind.........that is democracy,and I will stand by it.
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Blair has his faults and has made mistakes. However, we have as-near-as-damn-it full employment, low inflation, low interest rates, the Health Service in a better financial state than since its inception (get a senior nurse to show you her pay packet) although it is more expensive to keep people alive through new diseases (or rather, newly discovered ones) than previously. It's been a while now since we've had road blocks on the M1 to stop people travelling north to witness Police cavalry charges on unarmed protesters, and whole towns being put out of work through a deliberate government policy. I didn't think of myself as being left wing (Not the way I was brought up, and I'm firmly middle class) until I saw what Thatcher and her cronies did to the working classes of this country, and it will be a cold day in Hell when I give a vote to a Tory.

Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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Seriously, apart from laying off some miners what did she do that was so bad? Her hands were tied over Falklands - you either defend your territories or give them all up so what could she do there? It was Poll Tax that finished her, but to be honest I can see more logic behind poll tax than council tax. Council services are primarily personal services (social care, travel facilities, library and leisure etc) rather than property services (dustbin collections), so it does make much more sense to have some system based on individual payments rather than property values which can see pensioners on lower incomes in decent houses subsidising everyone else.

By steering Great Britain towards modern industries she made it fourth most successful economy in world, and consequently she raised more people above poverty line than any other prime minister in history - and along with right to buy she has ironically done more for working class enrichment than any Labour government. Where you have winners you are always going to get some losers, and I do not deny she was hard, but I think her contribution to Great Britain was significant and mostly positive.
Yes she was a peach,up here in Scotland we wont hear a bad word about her.:
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Seriously, apart from laying off some miners what did she do that was so bad? Her hands were tied over Falklands - you either defend your territories or give them all up so what could she do there? .
Well, she could have listened to her own intelligence community that warned her it was coming......and she might not have ordered the sinking of the Belgrano just as US-brokered peace talks were coming to fruition....not a coincidence. She wanted that War badly, for her own political ends.

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There is clearly only one British actress who has the qualities to play Margaret Thatcher: sex appeal (especially for 50 ish old Etonians - many in the cabinet including Alan Clark had lustful thoughts about Maggie, and she greatly charmed her mature US friend Ronald Raygun), good looks, combined with nerves as hard as steel.
That actress is our favourite JENNY AGUTTER, who does a splendid Tory
[check out the BBC4 seriers in which she played Tory grandee Alan Clark's wife....]

Jenny IS the Tory lady personified !
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I suppose Vanessa Redgrave is slightly too old for it now otherwise she would have been perfect.
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That actress is our favourite JENNY AGUTTER, who does a splendid Tory
[check out the BBC4 seriers in which she played Tory grandee Alan Clark's wife....]

Jenny IS the Tory lady personified !
Oh, please don't bite Fell

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