Let's Hear It For Black And White Films

[Blanche Fury]

I once read that black and white film is actually more expensive than colour; the reason given was that b+w contains silver. Is there any truth in this?

[CaptainWaggett]

name='Blanche Fury' date='30 June 2010 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1277904051' post='446198']

I once read that black and white film is actually more expensive than colour; the reason given was that b+w contains silver. Is there any truth in this?

Old b/w nitrate stock was often melted down for this reason - isn't this what happened to most of Cecil Hepworth's stuff?

[didi-5]

I'm curious about restoration costs relating to B/W and colour - I'm assuming that a colour restoration costs £££ more because it is more complex. Is this really the case or does it depend on what's being restored, the state of the original source, and other factors?

[vedakis777]

It is according to Gaumont Pathe Archives:

LA TRICHROMIE 1912

GREECE: "District around MEGARE and CORINTH. Women in holiday dress 1912

LA COTE SAUVAGE. Panorama de la Côte Sauvage. L'ARDECHE. 1912

La mode de PARIS. 1912

L'ARDECHE. Panorama de l'ARDECHE.Lavoir :femmes lavent le linge. BRETAGNE : La COTE SAUVAGE. 1912

KINGS AND PERSONNALITES: The late King of Greece, arrival of royal remains at Athens 1912

FLOWERS "CLUSTERS IN MUDS" 1912

DEAUVILLE - HONFLOR 1912

NICE CARNIVAL NICE - 1913 (1912)

VENICE VENICE queen of Adriatic 1912

VILLA OF THE BOUGAINVILLIERS. Beach, unloading of cases. 1912

ENGHIEN LES BAINS "View of Enghien les Bains. The casino at Enghien regarding which has question was lately raised in the french parliament "(View of ENGHIEN-LES-BAINS (The Enghien casino the question of which fell recently within the competence of France Parliament) 1912

MAJORCA "In the Isle of MAJORCA. Palma the the capital of balearic islands "(On the ïle of MARJORQUE. PALMA the capital of the Balearic Islands) 1912

MONTAGE TRICHROMIE DVD "GAUMONT LE CINEMA PREMIER VOL.2" (Compilation of 1912-1913)



It is according to Youtube:

Die Belle-Époque in Farbe (1913)

[vedakis777]

Kinemacolor in Japan:

Maple Viewing (1913)

The Snowbound Barrier of Love (1914)



Kinemacolor in Australia:

Australia's Beauties in Kinemacolor (1913)

[Steve Crook]

name='didi-5' timestamp='1277907496' post='446225']

I'm curious about restoration costs relating to B/W and colour - I'm assuming that a colour restoration costs £££ more because it is more complex. Is this really the case or does it depend on what's being restored, the state of the original source, and other factors?

The state of the original source, and how far back you go, makes a big difference.



When they did the recent restoration on The Red Shoes the UCLA Film Archive wehn all the way back to the original Technicolor negatives. Many "restorations" of colour films only to back to an intermediate stage, not to the original negatives.



The negatives for The Red Shoes were in a sorry state. The three strips of the three strip Technicolor had sometimes shrunk at different rates and so had slipped out of register with each other. They had faded and there were scratches on the negatives and on the optical soundtrack, there was even mould growing on some sections. That's why it took so long to fully restore it and that's why it cost so much.



But the results are stunning, especially when seen on the big screen.



And the techniques they learned in doing The Red Shoes will mean that future full restorations will be a lot faster and a lot cheaper - but they'll still take some time and will still be quite expensive.



Steve

[vedakis777]

Here is the list of Chronochrome films:





It is according to Gaumont Pathe Archives:

LA TRICHROMIE 1912

GREECE: "District around MEGARE and CORINTH. Women in holiday dress 1912

LA COTE SAUVAGE. Panorama de la Côte Sauvage. L'ARDECHE. 1912

La mode de PARIS. 1912

L'ARDECHE. Panorama de l'ARDECHE.Lavoir :femmes lavent le linge. BRETAGNE : La COTE SAUVAGE. 1912

KINGS AND PERSONNALITES: The late King of Greece, arrival of royal remains at Athens 1912

FLOWERS "CLUSTERS IN MUDS" 1912

DEAUVILLE - HONFLOR 1912

NICE CARNIVAL NICE - 1913 (1912)

VENICE VENICE queen of Adriatic 1912

VILLA OF THE BOUGAINVILLIERS. Beach, unloading of cases. 1912

ENGHIEN LES BAINS "View of Enghien les Bains. The casino at Enghien regarding which has question was lately raised in the french parliament "(View of ENGHIEN-LES-BAINS (The Enghien casino the question of which fell recently within the competence of France Parliament) 1912

MAJORCA "In the Isle of MAJORCA. Palma the the capital of balearic islands "(On the ïle of MARJORQUE. PALMA the capital of the Balearic Islands) 1912

MONTAGE TRICHROMIE DVD "GAUMONT LE CINEMA PREMIER VOL.2" (Compilation of 1912-1913)



It is according to Youtube:

Die Belle-Époque in Farbe (1913)



This is the best I can do.

[James Layton]

Brewster Color

BONEY'S BONER 1929

PIKIN' PIRATE, A 1929

HECTIC HECTOR 1929

KRISS KROSSES 1929

WONDERINS 1929

EGYPTIAN GYP, AN 1929

What's your source for these titles? They are new to me.