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    So who do you think makes better cult films U.S or U.K?

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    name='QueenLarifa']So who do you think makes better cult films U.S or U.K?


    Can anybody set out to make a cult film?

    Surely a cult develops around a film. It can't be created.



    Can you think of any films that were made with the intention of them being a cult?



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    Most intentional cult films are dire. Alex Cox' Straight to Hell is one example I can think of.

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    A cult film is often a film that is commercially unsuccessful on it's initial release but word of mouth increases it's profile. I think a lot of Brit comedies over the last fews have attempted to 'create' a cult following (the most recent being Three and Out) and, because the films have been so dreadful that have failed on all levels. There seems to be more cult films that are British than US so perhaps we are better at it than them.

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    name='batman']A cult film is often a film that is commercially unsuccessful on it's initial release but word of mouth increases it's profile. I think a lot of Brit comedies over the last fews have attempted to 'create' a cult following (the most recent being Three and Out) and, because the films have been so dreadful that have failed on all levels. There seems to be more cult films that are British than US so perhaps we are better at it than them.


    Or perhaps we're not as good at marketing films?



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    Canada knock out a good cult movie every now and then.



    Big Meat Eater, anybody?

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    name='Steve Crook']Or perhaps we're not as good at marketing films?



    Steve


    If Three and Out is a example of UK marketing you may be right. The last time I looked it had grossed an incredible £11,000 throughout the UK.

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    Surely a cult film is one that has a number of ardent admirers? Doesn't really matter how many, so Star Wars is a cult film too. It isn't a genre in itself so I'm not sure how you go out to make one.



    But of course it's the minority cults we all love. A few of my favourites that slipped under the radar are: Careful directed by Guy Maddin, Nothing Lasts Forever directed by Tom Schiller and At Close Range directed by James Foley.



    The last two were shown on Alex Cox's Moviedrome - I wish the BBC would bring that back...

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    name='Steve Crook']Can anybody set out to make a cult film?

    Surely a cult develops around a film. It can't be created.



    Can you think of any films that were made with the intention of them being a cult?



    Steve


    Donnie Darko

    Pulp Fiction

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    name='QueenLarifa']Donnie Darko

    Pulp Fiction


    Good films both. Cult films? Maybe. Intended to be cult films? Probably not.

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    Hello there! I was wondering as obvious fans of cult films, both American and British and users of fan forums such as this, how much importance do you think fans place upon being able to discuss their favourite (or least favourite) cult films??And do you think cult films would grow to such popularity without forums such as this??



    Thanks

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    name='princesskent3']Hello there! I was wondering as obvious fans of cult films, both American and British and users of fan forums such as this, how much importance do you think fans place upon being able to discuss their favourite (or least favourite) cult films??And do you think cult films would grow to such popularity without forums such as this??



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    Films became 'cult' films long before forums such as this existed (eg The Wicker Man).



    People talk about films in pubs, at work anywhere where conversation thrives. It is as important for film fans to discuss films they like/dislike as it is for football fans to rant about their own teams dominance over another.



    It can create a sense of community but also lead one to discover films they may have missed.

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    Coutesy of Filmsite.org



    There's no hard-and-fast rule or checklist to gauge what makes a cult film. A cult film is often designated as such "in the eye of the beholder" without fufilling any definition. It's often a matter of opinion. One viewer's cult film may not be judged the same by another viewer.


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    name='batman']Good films both. Cult films? Maybe. Intended to be cult films? Probably not.


    I thought Donnie Darko really did set itself up to be a cult film what with the website that you were meant to study in order to make sense of the film and the obsessive fans it had acquired within about 5 days of release. And it succeeded too. But it's unusual to set out to make a cult and there's a certain randomness about what captures the public imagination. For example, I was completely underwhelmed by Withnail & I but lots of my student pals saw it several times and quoted it down the pub until I wanted to throw stuff at them.

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    Was Citizen Kane the first cult film?



    There are very few British films I see that are anywhere near as subversive as the quirkier American independent movies that get made. I think it has to do with not having any overt political message

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    name='Moor Larkin']Was Citizen Kane the first cult film?



    There are very few British films I see that are anywhere near as subversive as the quirkier American independent movies that get made. I think it has to do with not having any overt political message




    The question is, was Citizen Kane cult when it was released? Did cult films even exist in 1941? Or is it that Welles is regarded as such a pioneer now that films like Citizen Kane can be considered cult hits?

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    I think Citizen Kane became a cult before it was even finished!

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    And if the recent de Caprio movie about Howard Hughes is to be believed, Hells Angels was more cult than any before or since!!




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    I think cults films are personal "pantheon" for everyone, maybe Kubrick is one of rarest who knew he was doing a cult film (for lots of reasons) with" 2001...".

    Somes for me : Beat the devil(Huston),Bridge Over the River Kwaï, Night of the Hunter, The Honey Pot (Manckiewicz)....and many others .

    M.

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    And I think, that even if at the begining of a film to become cult there is a huge personal feeling, you can later on notice that you can share this with many other people, even on different approches.

    M.

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