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    Senior Member Country: UK CaptainWaggett's Avatar
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    My problem is not with the business with the memoirs - that's clever. It's with adding another scene just in case anyone missed the point

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    I agree with you, Captain; an extra scene is completely unnecessary. A bit of thinking at the end of a film is a good thing, IMHO.



    I think the storyline of "Titanic" was just waterlogged anyhow and, unlike the iceberg, there is't more to it than meets the eye!

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    name='Mr Cosmo']I won't give away the ending - let me just say LAVENDER HILL MOB - we all know how it should end don't we?


    Well said Mr Cosmo, I was about to post the same. A superb film in every respect but as you say...

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    name='FilmBuffuk']I think the "Kind Hearts and Coronets" ending is more appropriate, because it fits in with the rest of the film. However, I just don't feel that the ending of "The Italian Job" is as good as it might have been. After all the planning and the brilliant execution of the job, to succum to what was, after all, blatant stupidity and reclessness at the end, just doesn't work for me. It's a bit like the conclusion of "The Lavendar Hill Mob" and "The League of Gentlemen" and just makes it look rushed, in order to comply with the Establishment's dictum of "Crime doesn't pay" (or, at least, it shouldn't). However, this is fantasy; pure fiction, so why shouldn't crime pay in fiction? Can't we determine the difference? After all, some crimes appear to pay very well, particularly if you are part of the "Establishment" (allegedly)!


    I cant disagree with any of that but I will add, I always thought the ending of the "The Italian Job" was left open for a possible "Italian Job 2" personally I'm glad it didn't happen. As for Kind Hearts and Coronets, surely that has to be one of the best endings to a film you have ever seen!

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    name='CaptainWaggett']Slightly OT, but when did people start to actually get away with crimes in caper movies?




    There's a thread about this...

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    I thought David Lean's masterful "Great Expaectations" totally undone by its upbeat ending wich was in direct contradiction to Dickens. I had a similar reaction to the 1939 "Wuthering Heights" which again was too positive and not in the right dark "spirit" Both of these otherwise great films were seriously marred for me by their inappropriate endings.

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    Senior Member Country: UK CaptainWaggett's Avatar
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    Five great films with terrible endings

    The films in question are Superman, AI, The Birds, No Country for Old Men and Monty Python and the Holy Grail. So you can decide for yourselves about spoilers I would add any film where it turns out to have all been a dream. Even cinematic versions of Alice in Wonderland tend to be a bit rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainWaggett View Post
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmb...rrible-endings

    The films in question are Superman, AI, The Birds, No Country for Old Men and Monty Python and the Holy Grail. So you can decide for yourselves about spoilers I would add any film where it turns out to have all been a dream. Even cinematic version of Alice in Wonderland tend to be a bit rubbish.
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    Dead of Night



    It is, of course, the exception that proves the rule Along with the rule about there being no good films
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    about golf
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    Senior Member Country: UK Mr Sloane's Avatar
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    now you need to edit

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    I would like to change the ending of Hitchcock's Suspicion so that it has the ending that Hitchcock wanted rather than the ending that the studio wanted.

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    Death in Venice. The bloke gets better, gets lucky and gets to do the deed...

    Oh, and about an hour and a half earlier than the current version.

    And get Burt Bacharach to do a decent score - come on, you can afford a live composer these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAEME View Post
    Death in Venice. The bloke gets better, gets lucky and gets to do the deed...

    Oh, and about an hour and a half earlier than the current version.

    And get Burt Bacharach to do a decent score - come on, you can afford a live composer these days...
    There are many, many films I'd like to end half an hour earlier But knocking off the last 30 seconds of Whisky Galore to remove the moralising (insisted on by the American distributors) would make it even more perfect

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    Last Holiday(the original) removing the ironic ending.

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    Ralph Smart apparently wanted "Bitter Springs" to end
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    with the slaughter of the Aborigines, but he was not allowed to do this. I thought it might have been neat if the Aborigines had ended up doing the slaughtering.
    In the event, it ends very oddly,
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    like a newsreel.


    Many critics in the years since have heavily criticised Ralph Smart for not having the ending he had originally argued for, but those same critics seem to have no idea that Ralph was simply over-ruled by Ealing Studios.

    It was not too long after making Bitter Springs, that he stopped making movies altogether and went into television and became a Producer, not just a director and writer.


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    'The Godfather Part III' 'Mary Corleone' being killed in a tacky manner,'Al Neri' killing 'Don Lucchese' with National Health Glasses,'Don Altobello' being killed via cannolli,in fact,the entire ending was shite,Al Pacino didn't help the film by insisting on talking like Al Pacino instead of 'Michael Corleone' (is smoking really that destructive,vocally?) and neither did the awful Sofia Coppola......Ok,I admit (reluctantly) that the entire film was poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaycad View Post
    'The Godfather Part III' 'Mary Corleone' being killed in a tacky manner,'Al Neri' killing 'Don Lucchese' with National Health Glasses,'Don Altobello' being killed via cannolli,in fact,the entire ending was shite,Al Pacino didn't help the film by insisting on talking like Al Pacino instead of 'Michael Corleone' (is smoking really that destructive,vocally?) and neither did the awful Sofia Coppola......Ok,I admit (reluctantly) that the entire film was poor.

    I didn't mind the film - it was just overshadowed by the previous two!
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    There should be a law against films that leave you up in the air!
    All loose ends should be tied up, not left to viewers to "write" for themselves.
    I don't mean endings that might leave you wondering a bit, such as "Gone With the Wind", but endings that exasperate because they leave questions unanswered or situations unresolved - as I said in another thread recently, when it seems that the director or writer couldn't decide how to end it.

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    After been forced to endure The Matrix yet again the other night I found myself shouting at the telly "take the blue pill" not only knocking over an hour off this film but saving us from the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShirlGirl View Post
    There should be a law against films that leave you up in the air!
    All loose ends should be tied up, not left to viewers to "write" for themselves.
    Have you ever seen A Matter of Life and Death?
    Was it all in Peter's imagination? Or was it real?

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