real life villains on screen

[davidb]

what real life criminals have appeared in films or tv over the years .theres been a few in the last ten years or so thanks to mr madonna and his cockerney gangster movies .there must have been some before that though ?

[Moor Larkin]

Don't you mean Reformed Characters?

[davidb]

name='Moor Larkin']Don't you mean Reformed Characters?

in the case of john bindon ,no !

[Bernardo]

name='davidb']what real life criminals have appeared in films or tv over the years .

Freddy Mills used to appear in films I am sure our officinados will supply the titles but usually black and white where a spiv or shady but smart well used character was required. He was Light Heavyweight champion of the world in 1948 and night club owner. He was shot in the head June 1965. He had no convictions but was involved with the Kray Twins and the London gangster scene which probably cost him his life.

[Wicked Lady]

Doesn't Dirty Den have a criminal record?

[bhowells]

Alan Lake husband of Diana Dors.

[Chevyman]

name='Wicked Lady']Doesn't Dirty Den have a criminal record?

Murder in 1967

[Chevyman]

Quite a few names to post but what constitutes a villain? Someone who's been in prison or just heavies?

[davidb]

name='Chevyman']Quite a few names to post but what constitutes a villain? Someone who's been in prison or just heavies?

i was thinking of the john bindon types ,the celebrity criminal .a heavie i suppose .i was wondering how far back this had started ,theres been a lot of them in recent years

[batman]

Robert Mitchum did time, as did Rory Calhoun. Tom Neal did time for murder after his film career was over. Tom Sizemore and Robert Downey Jr and more recent wrong doers. Errol Flynn was involved in numerous court cases. I don't think any of these blokes are considered 'heavies' though. George Raft had 'connections' and James Caan has admitted that he is 'connected' ....

[CaptainWaggett]

Ivor Novello did time but I don't think you'd count him as a 'heavy'!

[davidb]

there was ronnie biggs in the great rock n roll swindle ! is he still in belmarsh ? theres no need for that is there ? i cant see him robbing any other trains the state hes in .it seems to me its just the establishment having their revenge on him for him sidestepping justice in a high profile case

[SirOllyBolly]

Lenny McClean in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

[Chevyman]

name='SirOllyBolly']Lenny McClean in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

PH Moriarty, as above, but also in The Long Good Friday

Billy Murray and Johnnie Shannon are alleged to have some good friends

Victor McLagen had been a bareknuckle fighter

Dave Courtney

"Mad" Frankie Fraser

[Klark Crass]

Chisel-chinned Bobby Ramsey was a Krays associate and seen in Long Good Friday: in pub (Watermans Arms?) seated, with hat when the distressed publican asked Bob Hoskins "Is that a gun, Harold?" "Would I come hunting you with my two fingers?" says Bob.



Some years ago Mr. Ramsey was working on a door and kindly offered me out for a fight, but I declined graciously and he tripped. Shame, cuz my dad got on well with him years before that.

[Chevyman]

name='Klark Crass']Chisel-chinned Bobby Ramsey was a Krays associate and seen in Long Good Friday: in pub (Watermans Arms?) seated, with hat when the distressed publican asked Bob Hoskins "Is that a gun, Harold?" "Would I come hunting you with my two fingers?" says Bob.



Some years ago Mr. Ramsey was working on a door and kindly offered me out for a fight, but I declined graciously and he tripped. Shame, cuz my dad got on well with him years before that.

I met him quite a few years ago at a Boxing Dinner. Struck me as a decent bloke ready for a chat...........still got his autograph on a programme somewhere

[Wicked Lady]

name='CaptainWaggett']Ivor Novello did time but I don't think you'd count him as a 'heavy'!

Not unless there's an Oscar Wilde team of prison hard men.

[Lizzy]

name='davidb']what real life criminals have appeared in films or tv over the years .theres been a few in the last ten years or so thanks to mr madonna and his cockerney gangster movies .there must have been some before that though ?

what about daniel craig as one of the killers in the film about truman capote's story about "in cold blood". The film was called "capote". Good acting by daniel criag, especially the kissing scene with capote. Scary

[Lizzy]

what about daniel craig as one of the killers in the film about truman capote's story about "in cold blood". The film was called "capote". Good acting by daniel criag, especially the kissing scene with capote. Scary

[batman]

name='Lizzy']what about daniel craig as one of the killers in the film about truman capote's story about "in cold blood". The film was called "capote". Good acting by daniel criag, especially the kissing scene with capote. Scary

We're talking about real villains who were also actors, not villains portrayed as characters in films.