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Old 20-07-2005, 08:55 AM   #1
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Hi all,
In recent trades I've noticed that some people tend to use DVD+R and others DVD-R. I was wondering what other people use and why. Are there advantages or disadvantages in using either. I tend to use DVD-R but for no particular reason. It was interesting to see recently on the SVP site, they were selling overprinted DVD-RW and DVD+RW. The DVD-RW sold out almost straight away and DVD+RW did not. Unless they had more DVD+RW in stock of course.
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I master and menu my own so tend to use RW's initially in case there's an audio sync problem or a want to TMPenc on a higher quality level.
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Old 20-07-2005, 01:39 PM   #3
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You know my thoughts on DVDs!!!!!!
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I use both. It used to be the case that DVD-R was considered more compatible with many machines/dvd rom drives.
Largely, these compatability issues have become less common, as new machines/drives have become multi-format capable.
The trick to success with any DVD media is 'cook 'em slow and steady' and keep your grubby mits off of the playing surface....
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Last time I saw; compatability came out at about 95% for - and 93% for +, or something. (source: somewhere on avforum) there's not much in it.

I guess your choce has to match the hardware you're using.

I have access to both (+ on PC burner, and - on DVD recorder)

'Burn speed' means nothing on a DVD recorder.

I can never be arsed with PC burning, as you have to sit there and wet nurse it. I much prefer a DVD recorder. Hit play and record and go and have a cup of tea; or put some spam onto a forum such as this.


I would be interested to know people's preferences; i.e. PC burn or DVD recorder.
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-R is as said more compatible, whereas +R is better image quality. My old Samsung 709 (bought in 1999) plays both formats so I went with +R.
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Originally posted by Wolfgang@Jul 21 2005, 12:04 AM
-R is as said more compatible, whereas +R is better image quality. My old Samsung 709 (bought in 1999) plays both formats so I went with +R.
Compatibility is a big issue with DVD Recorders. I find the easiest solution is to record on to DVD-R and then finalise the disks. This process turns them into DVD-Video format (i.e. the same as retail disks) which means they can be played on practically anything.
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Only ever burned to DVD-R & RAM and when I first started DVD recording I think my PC burner was only compatible with the minus format and RAM anyway, so I have never even contemplated burning to plus.

Personally I prefer the flexibility of editing and then burning using the PC, I’m fortunate to have two PC’s so I use one pretty much exclusively for DVD work. Perhaps I’ve been lucky but (touch wood) I have not had too many hassles using a PC for this task.
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The new generation DVD recorders, such as the Panasonic DMRES10, plus, I think the Sony, can burn to either format (+ or -)

Anyone have any experience of using one?

I have read on avforum that the Panny has a bug.

I've never been able to tell any difference in PQ between a + disc or a - disc.
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What it boils down to, is that +R's method of writing to disks is more resiliant when coping with signal noise.
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Our dvd player will only play dvd+r's. I wish we'd gone and bought a multi region player at the time instead of the one we did buy!
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Originally posted by mysteriesofedgarwallace@Jul 21 2005, 07:09 PM
The new generation DVD recorders, such as the Panasonic DMRES10, plus, I think the Sony,* can burn to either format (+ or -)

Anyone have any experience of using one?

I have read on avforum that the Panny has a bug.

I've never been able to tell any difference in PQ between a + disc or a - disc.
Mysteries...
Yes, I have a multi-format machine (Sony RDR HX510).
I've used 16 X speed DVD-R as well as 8 X speed DVD+R and have to say that I've not noticed any difference as far as picture quality is concerned. Picture quality has more to do with what level of resolution you use when you record a program/movie than the actual media used, I think - so long as you only use top quality media.
My Sony actually has 8 levels of record resolution allowing 1 hour, 1.5 hours, 2 hours, 2.5 hours, 3, 4, 6 and 8 hours to be recorded on a single DVD as well as the capability of recording to dual-sided DVD's.
So far, I have only used HQ mode to record 1/2 hr programs like Extras and Absolute Power from BBC2 while HSP, SP and LSP modes have been used to record movies from SKY and my old VHS. It is impossible to tell the difference between the SKY broadcast and the recorded program on either DVD-R or DVD+R in any of those resolutions - HSP, SP or LSP (I try to alternate between the two -R and +R formats). I have to say that I am more than a little chuffed to find that copies of my old VHS movies seem slightly better (clearer /crisper) than the originals - if that is possible. I put that down to the machine's digital noise reduction.
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I use DVD-R, because that's the only DVD format my iMac's Superdrive can burn to. I've got no complaints, though - it's fully compatible with both my other DVD players, and I bought my parents a player that I knew would be OK, just to make sure they can play homemade DVDs of their grandchildren. Not that I've got round to editing, formatting or burning any of these yet...
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