So Well Remembered - Britmovie

rikki-tikki-tavi · 16-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Hello
I could have put this message on the John Mills discussion elsewhere on the board but it is a 'new release'. I heard on the radio yesterday that the film 'So Well Remembered' starring John Mills, Trevor Howard and Patricia Roc, made in 1946 which was never originally released and was then lost, has been found in Tennessee, and because it was shot in Macclesfield, someone in Macclesfield has made it available on Video and DVD. Check it out on www.macc.me.uk
The title is ironic given that it was never released. Of course it may not be a good film and who knows about the picture quality? But I'm going to send for it.

DAVID RAYNER · 16-09-2004, 08:33 PM

I just checked this out in my 1947 Film Review annual. According to that, it was generally released in the UK on August 25th, 1947 and the distributor is given as RKO Radio - J Arthur Rank. Also, according to my programme records, it was shown here in Stoke-on-Trent for six days at the Odeon, Hanley, on Monday, August 11th, 1947.

JamesM · 16-09-2004, 11:10 PM

This was one of three Edward Dmytryk films made in the UK. They were 'buried' after the HUAC meetings began in the late 40s and Dmytryk was jailed as part of the Hollywood Ten. After Dmytryk changed his mind to get his career back, by ending other peoples careers, any revival in the films he made with other blacklisted members (such as So Well Remembered) became very unlikely.

By coincidence I was researching these three films with consideration of trying to release them on DVD. One is available in the states "Give Us This Day" (as "Christ in Concrete")on region0 from Allday Entertainment, the other is "Obsession". I can only find these latter two films on the bbfc website. So Well Remembered does not appear it all. This may mean it had a diffeent title at one time (its UK premiere in London in July, 1947, could not have taken place without a certificate).

Rob Compton · 16-09-2004, 11:22 PM

Very interesting, thanks for the info on "So Well Remembered". It doesn't appear in David Quinlan's normally very comprehensive British Sound Films book - unless under another name.

rgds
Rob

Steve Crook · 17-09-2004, 01:21 AM

Odd, it doesn't appear in the BBFC database either.

But it's in the IMDb.

Steve

DAVID RAYNER · 17-09-2004, 07:30 AM

According to the 1947 Odeon, Hanley, advert, it was given an "A" certificate.

Hackett · 17-09-2004, 10:01 AM

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</div><div class='quotemain'>SteveCrook:
Odd, it doesn't appear in the BBFC database either.

But it's in the IMDb.

Steve [/b]

The BBFC database fox's me. You give it no end of imfo and it still comes back unknown.

DAVID RAYNER · 17-09-2004, 11:33 AM

I've also found it's not very efficient, Hackett. One thing I've found, though, is that when you're searching for a title with the word "The" on the beginning, such as The Moonraker, leave off the "The", otherwise nothing comes up.

I've had a good search through it this morning and another thing I've noticed is that many fims that were only allowed a certificate if certain cuts were made in them, are missing any details of what the cuts consisted off. It appears that the information was never kept. Surely, they should have kept log books with details of each film submitted to the BBFC and what cuts, if any, were made in them and why.

Steve Crook · 17-09-2004, 05:49 PM

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</div><div class='quotemain'>DAVID RAYNER:
I've also found it's not very efficient, Hackett. One thing I've found, though, is that when you're searching for a title with the word "The" on the beginning, such as The Moonraker, leave off the "The", otherwise nothing comes up.

I've had a good search through it this morning and another thing I've noticed is that many fims that were only allowed a certificate if certain cuts were made in them, are missing any details of what the cuts consisted off. It appears that the information was never kept. Surely, they should have kept log books with details of each film submitted to the BBFC and what cuts, if any, were made in them and why. [/b]

They probably do still have that information, but haven't put it online yet. I've seen various references to what was needed to be cut in some film books. It's not easy to computerise records from the last 100 years (or however long they've been going).

I'd rather they got the basic information on there first.

Steve

DAVID RAYNER · 17-09-2004, 06:15 PM

Point taken, Steve. It's also probably why there are so many films missing on there (including So Well Remembered).

[ 17. September 2004, 19:27: Message edited by: DAVID RAYNER ]

Hackett · 18-09-2004, 10:40 AM

"SO WELL REMEMBERED" missing? They probably just forgot it.

DAVID RAYNER · 18-09-2004, 11:05 AM

Well said, Hackett, well said!

Rob Compton · 26-09-2004, 06:32 AM

Another link on "So Well Remembered"

http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news...e_id=13729.html

I've now got the DVD of the film and watched it, and it's well worth seeing. Great performances from John Mills (as you'd expect) and particularly Trevor Howard as the doctor slipping into alcoholism.

rgds
Rob

16-09-2004, 07:58 PM	#1
rikki-tikki-tavi has no status. Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	So Well Remembered Hello I could have put this message on the John Mills discussion elsewhere on the board but it is a 'new release'. I heard on the radio yesterday that the film 'So Well Remembered' starring John Mills, Trevor Howard and Patricia Roc, made in 1946 which was never originally released and was then lost, has been found in Tennessee, and because it was shot in Macclesfield, someone in Macclesfield has made it available on Video and DVD. Check it out on www.macc.me.uk The title is ironic given that it was never released. Of course it may not be a good film and who knows about the picture quality? But I'm going to send for it.

17-09-2004, 01:21 AM	#5
Steve Crook is cheeky Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 9,895 My Mood: Country: iTrader: (1)	Odd, it doesn't appear in the BBFC database either. But it's in the IMDb. Steve __________________ Steve Crook PaPAS

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16-09-2004, 08:33 PM	#2
DAVID RAYNER has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: none Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	I just checked this out in my 1947 Film Review annual. According to that, it was generally released in the UK on August 25th, 1947 and the distributor is given as RKO Radio - J Arthur Rank. Also, according to my programme records, it was shown here in Stoke-on-Trent for six days at the Odeon, Hanley, on Monday, August 11th, 1947.

16-09-2004, 11:10 PM	#3
JamesM has no status. Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,435 Country: iTrader: (0)	This was one of three Edward Dmytryk films made in the UK. They were 'buried' after the HUAC meetings began in the late 40s and Dmytryk was jailed as part of the Hollywood Ten. After Dmytryk changed his mind to get his career back, by ending other peoples careers, any revival in the films he made with other blacklisted members (such as So Well Remembered) became very unlikely. By coincidence I was researching these three films with consideration of trying to release them on DVD. One is available in the states "Give Us This Day" (as "Christ in Concrete")on region0 from Allday Entertainment, the other is "Obsession". I can only find these latter two films on the bbfc website. So Well Remembered does not appear it all. This may mean it had a diffeent title at one time (its UK premiere in London in July, 1947, could not have taken place without a certificate).

16-09-2004, 11:22 PM	#4
Rob Compton has no status. Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 1,274 Country: iTrader: (2)	Very interesting, thanks for the info on "So Well Remembered". It doesn't appear in David Quinlan's normally very comprehensive British Sound Films book - unless under another name. rgds Rob

17-09-2004, 07:30 AM	#6
DAVID RAYNER has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: none Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	According to the 1947 Odeon, Hanley, advert, it was given an "A" certificate.

17-09-2004, 11:33 AM	#8
DAVID RAYNER has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: none Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	I've also found it's not very efficient, Hackett. One thing I've found, though, is that when you're searching for a title with the word "The" on the beginning, such as The Moonraker, leave off the "The", otherwise nothing comes up. I've had a good search through it this morning and another thing I've noticed is that many fims that were only allowed a certificate if certain cuts were made in them, are missing any details of what the cuts consisted off. It appears that the information was never kept. Surely, they should have kept log books with details of each film submitted to the BBFC and what cuts, if any, were made in them and why.

17-09-2004, 06:15 PM	#10
DAVID RAYNER has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: none Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Point taken, Steve. It's also probably why there are so many films missing on there (including So Well Remembered). [ 17. September 2004, 19:27: Message edited by: DAVID RAYNER ]

18-09-2004, 10:40 AM	#11
Hackett has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: England Posts: 765 Country: iTrader: (0)	"SO WELL REMEMBERED" missing? They probably just forgot it.

18-09-2004, 11:05 AM	#12
DAVID RAYNER has no status. Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: none Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Well said, Hackett, well said!

26-09-2004, 06:32 AM	#13
Rob Compton has no status. Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 1,274 Country: iTrader: (2)	Another link on "So Well Remembered" http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news...e_id=13729.html I've now got the DVD of the film and watched it, and it's well worth seeing. Great performances from John Mills (as you'd expect) and particularly Trevor Howard as the doctor slipping into alcoholism. rgds Rob