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Old 01-09-2006, 04:29 PM
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The former Coney Island Beachguard who joined the RCAF before America entered the war....I believe he actually commanded 617 at one stage, either just before Cheshire arrived or in a temporary absence...a real character, as one might imagine.
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the effects, even by 1950's standards, are poor for a largish budget film...look at films like Thief of Bagdad for what was possible even in the thirties.. Who could match Redgrave's performance though...that will be the test.
At least they're not colorizing the original...:rolleyes:[/quote]

I cannot argue with you about the SE of the original, they were poor to say the least and even at that time could have been done much much better. As for the performance of Redgrave what can one say, and who will get the task of trying to even equal it yet alone better it, after all that is what a remake is supposed to do, i would not dare to say. In the original whilst testing the bomb Redgrave throws his arms in the air at a sucessful drop, Wallis himself can bee seen doing this in footage of the drop showing how far Redgrave had studied for his part.....Quite alot to follow dont you think....

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Generally speaking I agree entirely...regarding the naming or otherwise of Guy's dog, we'll have to wait and see, if it was the latin word I don't think it would be a problem, but it's the extremely derogatory derivation from the Southern States; time will tell as to how it's handled.......but the 1950's film rewrote history too - all films do, however well intentioned - and I'm delighted that Jackson is looking to correct the two things that always niggle me about the original. One, the effects, even by 1950's standards, are poor for a largish budget film...look at films like Thief of Bagdad for what was possible even in the thirties.. Two, that Richard Todd, splendid performance though he gives, and his comrades, are way, way too old by ten to fifteen years....bigger details, in the scheme of things, I would suggest, than the name of a dog. Who could match Redgrave's performance though...that will be the test.
At least they're not colorizing the original...:rolleyes:
Hi Penfold......Interesting topic this one. I Have a picture on my hard drive of the said dog "NIGER" (latin spelling) but cant find a way of getting him into the thread. Any ideas how to do it ??

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Hi Penfold......Interesting topic this one. I Have a picture on my hard drive of the said dog "NIGER" (latin spelling) but cant find a way of getting him into the thread. Any ideas how to do it ??
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Well here is the dog that has caused all the banter about his name.....According to reports he was the second most hated creature on the camp, the first being Gibson. He was often seen urinating on staffs kit.....The dog that is!!!!

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Thanks for that my good friend, have got a link to the pic via imageshack as you said but how do i paste the pic, not a link into a trhead ???

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Thanks for that my good friend, have got a link to the pic via imageshack as you said but how do i paste the pic, not a link into a trhead ???

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It's a fantastic shot, not one I've seen before. I take it that it's the real thing, not a promotional still from the film...Lancs are beautiful too, aren't they??
Bit of a Bay Window, what??
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Lancs are beautiful too, aren't they??
I do agree, and especially when they are airborne. You might wonder how such a shape ever gets into the air

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A wonderful picture.
Of course Nigger (let's not be afraid to use his correct name) was owned by squadron leader Guy Gibson VC and was indeed the squadrons mascot.
Unlike the storyline to the film, the real Nigger was killed after being run over by a car outside the camp BEFORE the famous Dam Buster raid and not after.

Gibson later recalled how he felt after hearing of his dogs death -
"And so I went to my room on the eve of this adventure with my dog gone...the squadron mascot...I looked at the scratch marks on the door Nigger used to make when he wanted to go out and felt very depressed."

Nigger's grave is still maintained with great reverence at the old RAF Scampton base in Lincolnshire.

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$76m Dambusters comes to Wellington

01 September 2006 By TOM CARDY

First there was King Kong and now another childhood dream is about to come true for film-maker Peter Jackson – a $76 million new version of the classic film The Dam Busters.

Oh dear, Not what i wanted to hear, bad news indeed !!!


Might not be that bad, Peter Jackson has made some very good films and he could do a really in depth version of this story. Just imagine the Dam Busters Trilogy; The Fellowship of the Bouncing Bomb; The Three Dams; The Return of the Wing Commander.

The thing to remember about remakes is, though they usually stink to high heaven, the original still exists for us all to enjoy.


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I wonder if they will use the original music. I mean,it would not be the Dambusters wwithout Eric Coates rousing theme.
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I wonder if they will use the original music. I mean,it would not be the Dambusters wwithout Eric Coates rousing theme.
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They'll probably replace the classic theme with some [c]rap music in the hope that it'll make it appeal to the kids that most films are aimed at.

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