Dunkirk?

[paul clifton]

Hey



I see Optimum releaded Dunkirk a few months back. My Warner dvd isnt widescreen. Does anyone know if the Optumum or the Freebie that came with Daily Mail are in correct ratio of 2.00:1??

[Amethyst_Isle]

name='paul clifton']Hey



I see Optimum releaded Dunkirk a few months back. My Warner dvd isnt widescreen. Does anyone know if the Optumum or the Freebie that came with Daily Mail are in correct ratio of 2.00:1??

The freebie that came with Daily Mail is in the ratio of 1.77.1 as I have just checked the disc and was from Studio Canal,should that be the correct OAR or 2.00.1 then ?

[paul clifton]

hi mate



According to IMDB correct ratio is 200.1

[Amethyst_Isle]

name='paul clifton']hi mate



According to IMDB correct ratio is 200.1

That ratio could be wrong ? The one I have is 1.77.1 so maybe that is wrong too!!



Anyone know which is correct ?

[Nick Dando]

name='paul clifton']Hey



I see Optimum releaded Dunkirk a few months back.

I didn't know it was available unleaded. Was there ever a diesel version for the more economy-minded?



Nick

[paul clifton]

oops. Well i blame Compaq for putting the S and the D too close together on the keyboard. Sorry

[paul clifton]

I have just checked the box of mine and it says 1.33 frame. Thats the Warner release. So which release is yours that is 1.77?? Is that the new Optimum one??

[darrenburnfan]

I seem to recall some posters as saying that Dunkirk was in Metroscope (the film was released through MGM in the UK). Metroscope was not an anamorphic lens wide screen system, but the film frame was composed in such a way that it could be cropped in the projector gate and then the result enlarged to fit a wide screen. 2 x 1 seems a bit extreme, though and it was probably projected in cinemas at no more than 1:85:1...or more usually 1.66:1.

[paul clifton]

well my warner box says 1.133 but as we know, just cos it says that on the box, doesent mean it is

[John Hodson]

Dunkirk was filmed in 'Metroscope'; filmed 'flat' then matted down to 2.00:1 for projection. It was a cheap widescreen process that didn't involve expensive lenses.



If I recall correctly, the original Warner release was simply an open matte transfer, and the current Optimum transfer (and the Daily Mail freebie) has simply opened up the matte slightly from 2.00:1 to avoid thin black bars on widescreen TVs. It's a beautiful transfer by the way.



EDIT - sorry Darren, didn't see your post.



BTW, a number of sources DO say it was projected at 2.00:1, as were other Metroscope films including Libel (1959), The Day they Robbed the Bank of England (1960), Cattle King (1963), A Global Affair (1964), The Dirty Dozen (1967), Too Late the Hero (1970)

[darrenburnfan]

Another Metroscope release from the late 1950's was The Fastest Gun Alive. But when I went to see it in May, 1957, it definitely wasn't projected at 2 to 1, more like 1.66:1 and it looked alright to me in that aspect ratio.

[paul clifton]

cheers for the info. Ill pick up a daily mail copy on e bay. It the same as the Optimum release, yes??

[John Hodson]

name='darrenburnfan']Another Metroscope release from the late 1950's was The Fastest Gun Alive. But when I went to see it in May, 1957, it definitely wasn't projected at 2 to 1, more like 1.66:1 and it looked alright to me in that aspect ratio.

I've no doubt you're right; Metroscope films obviously didn't have a fixed AR and I've no doubt that while they might have been framed for 2.00:1 they would have been protected for anything up to and including 1.66:1.



I've just checked my R1 copy of Too Late The Hero, which is 1.78:1 and preceded by a message by the AR has been 'modified to fit my screen'. The Dirty Dozen DVD/BD is however, 2.00:1.

[John Hodson]

name='paul clifton']cheers for the info. Ill pick up a daily mail copy on e bay. It the same as the Optimum release, yes??

Yes it is.

[paul clifton]

cheers

[Amethyst_Isle]

Daily Mail copy is 1.77.1 Studio Canal.

[darrenburnfan]

The only problem with an Optimum DVD is having to endure the terrible discordant cacophony of that Studio Canal "drifting through the clouds" title, which we have to put up with twice before the film starts. It must be the worst DVD trade mark "music" in the business.

[JamesM]

name='darrenburnfan']The only problem with an Optimum DVD is having to endure the terrible discordant cacophony of that Studio Canal "drifting through the clouds" title, which we have to put up with twice before the film starts. It must be the worst DVD trade mark "music" in the business.

Hear, hear!

[Alan]

I have the freebee, it's 16.9 & Anamorphic! I'm very happy with it. Too many late 50's early 60's Brit. films released in 4x3 or non-anamorphic 16.9 versions.