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Old 09-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #16
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I saw Optimum's release of The Valachi Papers and the print was terrible.

If they do deal exclusively with 'dodgy' material that is understandable, if they don't its inexcusable...
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Can' comment on quality as I've none of their releases but I understand they are legit.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:06 AM   #18
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I'll quote one example - which James has already cited along with others in this thread - 'Twinky' is part of the Granada International catalogue. In this country, Granada license their products to Network (they used to have a tandem deal with DDHE), and to Studio Canal for certain box sets. They do not license out to Orbit.
By your own admittion then you can see Granada are selling 'non exclusive licenses' to others. You state they have not licensed to Orbit aswell as others, how do you know the inside business of 2 other companies which I assume you dont work for?
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I saw Optimum's release of The Valachi Papers and the print was terrible.

If they do deal exclusively with 'dodgy' material that is understandable, if they don't its inexcusable...
Film quality is not evidence of license fees being paid or not.

John et al was telling us his evidence for his libel against Orbit Media concerning the copyright theft from Granada by Orbit Media Ltd.
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By your own admittion then you can see Granada are selling 'non exclusive licenses' to others. You state they have not licensed to Orbit aswell as others, how do you know the inside business of 2 other companies which I assume you dont work for?
Do you work for either of them and know that they were correctly licensed?
Or are both of you making assumptions?

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Do you work for either of them and know that they were correctly licensed?
Or are both of you making assumptions?



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Old 09-03-2008, 01:31 PM   #22
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Well, well, well. I have only just discovered these latest posts.

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I have joined this forum, in fury at the mis-information and libel your are spouting. To imply and down right aledge that they are selling illegal dvds when you have no idea what license agreements they have and with who are shows a complete lack of intelligence, and from a moderator even worse, you bring shame on yourself and this forum.

How do you know if Criterion have or have not licensed others to make copies of their films?

These are very serious allegations from you, and I would expect if Orbit media see this they could take legal action against you.
Dear Russell, thank you for joining the forum to slander me.

You categorically stated that my previous statement was libellous. Can you tell me which statement or statements I have made you hold as libellous? Can you also tell me on what grounds you make your claim?

I do not know what licenses Orbit Media do have but I know what licenses they don't have.

I wonder what you would have said when I announced that Warner Home Entertainment and BBC Worldwide in the US were about to release a bootleg DVD of the film Scrooge which was already up for sale. I did not know what licenses they had but I knew they did not have a license to release this film. Did either of those giants sue me? Of course not, they pulled the title from Amazon and it was never heard of again.
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I saw Optimum's release of The Valachi Papers and the print was terrible.
I guess you mean Orbit's version.
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I guess you mean Orbit's version.
I do indeed

Mind you the quality was so poor I'm surprised I could read anything, on screen or on the packaging...
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Mind you the quality was so poor I'm surprised I could read anything, on screen or on the packaging...
Can you read what the copyright notice says on the box?

That would be telling.
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Can you read what the copyright notice says on the box?

That would be telling.
Rented it.

If I'd bought it I'd want a refund...
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I have joined this forum, in fury at the mis-information and libel your are spouting.
If you joined this forum in such a fury, how come it took over two and a half weeks for you to post? It certainly could not have been to get your spelling right.
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If you joined this forum in such a fury, how come it took over two and a half weeks for you to post? It certainly could not have been to get your spelling right.
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I do not know what licenses Orbit Media do have but I know what licenses they don't have.
Please provide your evidence to support your claims that they are making illegal copies. Its very simple no need to try to discredit me.

For anyone that doesnt understand Latin or come from a legal/scientific background et al is an abbreviation for and others.

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If you joined this forum in such a fury, how come it took over two and a half weeks for you to post? It certainly could not have been to get your spelling right.
Come on mate, you are better than this, rise it up a level.
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