The Hill

[batman]

Originally Posted by christoph404 Yes, you and Bats are quite right, it was "The Offence" that was part of the "Diamonds are Forever" deal, I was getting my Hills and Offences mixed up with my Lumets.....sorry about that!

No offence taken ...

Bats.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Re: Deepcut barracks Originally Posted by Steve Crook But it can happen I expect it's all reported in the Daily Mail and is just hyped up by the press.......

Au contraire. It's a real event where young soldiers were killed or driven to suicide by bullying. But there are no celebrities involved so I doubt you'll find mention of it in the popular press

Steve

[Harleybloke]

My Grandfather enlisted at 15 in 1914. Wounded twice, he made it through the war.

In his twilight years we were sitting in a pub in Finchley, he told me of a morning one late winter. His regiment had fallen out against a cutting, knackered, cold, grateful to be out of the line. Then, a group approached from one side. A Tommy being led to his firing squad the other side of the cutting. Their eyes met. My Grandfather never forgot that moment.

Just be grateful we'll never ever have to be there...............

[Moor Larkin]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook I doubt you'll find mention of it in the popular press

Au, au, au, it's magic!
'Foul abuse at Deepcut' | the Daily Mail

I recall when the reality show "Lads Army" was on in 2002, my son and I watched it with great delight. When I next saw my old man I brought it up, thinking it would have taken him back to 'the old days'.

To my surprise he said, yes, he had watched the first one but had not bothered since because it was a 'load of tripe'. I argued saying, but surely all the painting coal white and carrying shells on your back around the parade square and having the sergeant's spittle flying in your face was what happened to every new recruit as their spirit was ground out of them by the NCOgres....... (well, I didn't get that flowery but....). He stuck by his guns and said it was a ridiculous parody of what went on.

I left the old soldier to his memories....... Nobody ever believes what old soldiers say anyhow.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Au, au, au, it's magic! 'Foul abuse at Deepcut' | the Daily Mail

What a surprise, the Daily Hate Mail has got hold of the wrong end of the stick and is reporting the wrong story

It's not a case of the 4 recruits just being "bullied to death".
There are strong suspicions that at least one of them was murdered. The bullying that went on there is almost a sideline to some of the more serious events

Steve

[Dame Starry]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook What a surprise, the Daily Hate Mail has got hold of the wrong end of the stick and is reporting the wrong story It's not a case of the 4 recruits just being "bullied to death". There are strong suspicions that at least one of them was murdered. The bullying that went on there is almost a sideline to some of the more serious events Steve

Wasn't an officer also convicted of abuse sometime during the investigations at Deepcut?

YDSL x.

[Moor Larkin]

Originally Posted by Dame Starry Wasn't an officer also convicted of abuse sometime during the investigations at Deepcut?

Yeah. He made them all read The Guardian - the swine!

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Yeah. He made them all read The Guardian - the swine!

Is that what you would consider to be the worst possible punishment someone could inflict on you?

I got a call yesterday from a market research company on behalf of the Torygraph. Poor chap didn't know what he was letting himself in for.

Hello Mr Crook, do you regularly read The Telegraph?
No
Which newspaper do you read regularly?
None of them
Where do you get your news and information from then?
From places where I believe them. Not from newspapers

Shame I was so busy. When I have time I do like to give market researchers deliberately incorrect and misleading answers. Just to mess up their averages a bit.

Steve

[stevie boy]

Harry Andrews & Ian Hendry were very good in this film, fine actors.

[economy]

My father transferred from searchlight duties and became an MP in PAI Force you won`t find much info on it (the real forgotten army).

He certainly did not have an easy time and witnessed plenty of death and misery and came back with a body like some of the survivors of the Burma Railway.

One of his duties amongst others was to take convoys from the southern ports to the Russian border.

I remember him saying the only people he cracked down on were `black marketers`. As they were making a living out of others misery..

The Hill a cracking film specially the opening sequence from inside the compound to the outside a distance away, all filmed in one shot, I seem to recall somsething about the technique being developed bu Orson Welles but suspect I am incorrect..

[Moor Larkin]

Originally Posted by economy I remember him saying the only people he cracked down on were `black marketers`. As they were making a living out of others misery..

Nobody likes a spiv.......... except in Dad's Army....... or Catch 22...... or The Third Man......

I seem to recall somsething about the technique being developed bu Orson Welles but suspect I am incorrect..

Batman may know more but he (Orson that is, not Batman) made that movie with Heston and Dietrich that involved an enormously sweeping opening shot........

[batman]

Originally Posted by Moor Larkin Nobody likes a spiv.......... except in Dad's Army....... or Catch 22...... or The Third Man...... Batman may know more but he (Orson that is, not Batman) made that movie with Heston and Dietrich that involved an enormously sweeping opening shot........

The Welles film is Touch of Evil and features one continous shot from when a bomb is placed in the car to the second before the explosion. The explosion itself is the first edit in the film. That tracking shot took all night to get right, the take on screen was the last chance they had to get it right and it was the only successful one. Apparently the biggest problem was not technical, but one actor (the customs official) fluffling his lines!

There is also a continuous ten minute take in the scene where the police are searching that guy's apartment. It is the only scene in the film to have been shot in the studio.