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Old 09-12-2007, 08:13 PM
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The very well-connected (Mountbatten's son-in-law) Lord (John) Brabourne was the naval link man for both The Battle of the River Plate and Sink the Bismarck!
When you say "naval link man", do you mean "naval consultant"?

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Steve: thank you very much for that link and that info. I would certainly never have known about any of this, as apparently Knight was not a man to boast and his story is not well known here. I have just finished reading the story of his blindness, his partial recovery and his continued career - and his insistence on continuing his acting career even while still blind! A hero in war and at home.

His story puts things into perspective; I am ashamed to grumble about trivial things after reading that.
People like him do help you put, or keep, things in perspective.
Some disability rights activists use an acronym TAB, Temporarily Able-Bodied, as a reminder that any of us can become disabled at any time.

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I had not made the connection with the numerous other times I had seen him - especially in "Halfway House", which is a particular family favorite. I have "A Canterbury Tale" waiting for me over the Christmas vacation, and I see he was the narrator of that.

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He's not only the narrator of ACT, he also appears in it in a couple of comic roles.

He sometimes used his missing eye for comic or horrific effect. But most of the time you'd never know he couldn't see much.

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:23 PM
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Loved the movie!

Two fatal mistakes (in the real battles) stood out for me:

1) the Hood was technically a heavy cruiser because her decks were wooden (among other faults). She was scheduled to be upgraded to battleship status but just couldn't manage to spare the time, what with exhibition voyages to the various ports of the Empire in the late 30s/1940. That vital upgrade would have added steel armour plate to her decks. If this had been done, she might have survived the one direct hit from the Bismarck's guns...

2) The Bismarck did not top off her fuel tanks when she had the opportunity after leaving the safety of the fjords (unlike her escort, the Prinz Eugen) This was to cost the great battleship dearly...

A playingfield leveled by God?
Based on the film, it seems that impatience and arrogance were responsible for these failures: that, and the fear of telling Hitler they needed more time.

As for the "Prinz Eugen", that was one of the few details that I was not clear about: I know she survived, but I was not clear about her role in the battle.
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There is a strong sense of the claustrophobic in this excellent film with long scenes in the control room of the admiralty. At the end when Moore and his female assistant walk towards trafalgar square one can feel the fresh air and the light as itwere at the end of the tunnel.
Yes - I agree. This was achieved through an under-stated, imaginative approach to film making that is not usually used (at least here in the US) when presenting a spectacular battle.

I am not usually a fan of romantic sub-plots (especially fictional) when they are introduced into war films, but in this case it worked very well because it never interfered with the plot as a whole. Dana Wynter is a beautful woman and the director might easily (and perhaps understandably) have gotten carried away, but her role fit in well with the whole structure of the film. She came across as a welcome relief from the battle, which would reflect reality!

There is a respect for the real people who sacrificed themselves in that battle and the real events that impressed me.
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Michael Elliott adapted Moby Dick for the Royal Exchange Theatre, Manchester, in 1983 and had to restrain an enthusiastic Esmond, as Captain Peleg, from clambering up the rigging of the stage ship. He was 78 years old by then I believe!!...
Ha! Good story - and good for him!
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I think you will find that some scenes were shot aboard H.M.S. Vanguard, Britains last Battleship.
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I think you will find that some scenes were shot aboard H.M.S. Vanguard, Britains last Battleship.
Having seen it again the other day. the scenes of guns being loaded and some upper deck scenes were definitely filmed on Vanguard.
Why is it though that all the officers are sterling serious chaps but the ships company are just used to provide comic relief? Not the German sailors though they all looked deadly serious.
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