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Hi, WTS,

Thanks. I aim to intrigue

Seriously, I would very much like to hear your comments or anyone else's on this. It has always seemed to me that the Brit kitchen sink version of The New Wave understandably concerned itself with class conflict while the French New Wave focused on the existential anti-hero alienated from society as a whole. Perhaps the work of Tony Richardson and cinematographer Walter Lassally in "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" approaches the alientation prevalent in the French New Wave. Yet, it's a far cry from "Le Samourai."

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If the New Wave movement was characterised by the Angry Young Man set against the back drop of Northern working class Britian then, I feel British popular novels and cinama has developed the hero/anti hero role by elevating the working class character into a position of authority and power whilst mediating his actions.
The novel and film of the same name 'When Eight Bells Toll' illustrates this in the character of Philip Calvert, his character is an unapologetic mercenary with little patience for authority, yet he allows the character a number of human touches that make him endearing. His interaction with his stuffy boss, played marvelously by the late Robert Morley, recalls Bond and M in the 007 series, yet there's a depth to their relationship that the Bond pictures never really hit upon. True, Morley is playing yet another variation on his upper class British twit routine, yet he actually enters into the action in an unexpected and interesting way. Similarly, Hopkins evolves from treating him with complete disdain and contempt to embracing him as a valued comrade and collaborator. who is discribed by his boss Uncle Arthur as a climbing the ladder of life type.

The uncompromising and down to earth character of Calvert is reminiscent of the New Wave characters and I feel is a direct development.



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From the little research I have done on this I agree, though the kitchen sink depictions of society of the day I feel reflect the gritty reality of the characters portrayed, where as as you said Jean-Pierre Melville's existentialist anti-hero Jef Costello in 'Le Samourai appears to be surreal.

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Thank you, Fell, so glad you brought it up.

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From the little research I have done on this I agree, though the kitchen sink depictions of society of the day I feel reflect the gritty reality of the characters portrayed, where as as you said Jean-Pierre Melville's existentialist anti-hero Jef Costello in 'Le Samourai appears to be surreal.
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Seriously, I would very much like to hear your comments or anyone else's on this. It has always seemed to me that the Brit kitchen sink version of The New Wave understandably concerned itself with class conflict while the French New Wave focused on the existential anti-hero alienated from society as a whole. Perhaps the work of Tony Richardson and cinematographer Walter Lassally in "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" approaches the alientation prevalent in the French New Wave. Yet, it's a far cry from "Le Samourai."

Anyone?

All the best,

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Bob Le Flambeur was also about an aliented anti-hero by the same director 12 years earlier(one of the most influental films for the new Nouvelle Vague directors). Also there are different forms of alienation, I'm thinking of British New Wave films like Billy Liar, The L-Shaped Room, A Taste of Honey, Cathy Come Home, Darling etc. All these deal with alienation of one sort or another.
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