Copies

[Carmel]

I was just wondering what people charge in general for a copy of a movie, i have asked for copies and have been charged as much as £15 for a copy of a film. I dont like charging for copies myself as i think that if you have a film that someone wants why not share although i dont mind paying £5. Trading is also good but charging someone £15 for a copy is ridiculous as you would hardly pay that for a new Dvd release in HMV or any where so why pay it for a copy. I think £5 is sufficiant for a copy as its only 1 disc and a little of your time except of course if it's multiple disc's eg; series, Who agree's.

[julian_craster]

a DVDR disc is worth 50 pence (+ postage and packing costs).
Don't agree pay more than this to any member of this forum !

[julian_craster]

Another hint....NEVER pay with a personal cheque, which has your bank account details on it (combined with your address this is potentially valuable to fraudsters)

Pay with postage stamps or blank DVDR discs......

[Harbottle]

I have droned on at length about this topic before Charging someone £15 presumably for a single home recorded DVD-R is really quite outrageous Personally I never get involved with financial transactions I will only ever swap items, once cash enters into the equation the whole thing becomes a potential minefield. I can see that if a swap is not possible some kind of nominal charge should be made but as JC has mentioned a blank disk and an envelope/stamp hardly makes even £5 seem like a reasonable amount really. Trying to make a massive profit on what to most of us is just an enjoyable hobby is just not on as far as I'm concerned

[Wolfgang]

Are you Jeremy Clarkson by any chance, Julian?

£15 is too expensive - I think £5 is reasonable if you must charge and I personally would not pay more than £10 for bootleg copies. Maybe we could have some sort of Britmovie maintenance fund to cover site costs for those who are opposed to charging? Presumably someone is shelling out for this site?

[smudge]

I've paid £15 for a single title and been grateful for it, as it was a film I knew that I couldn't get anywhere else in the country. The 50p per disc argument is incredibly basic; this hobby - like any other - has its rarities and those are sometimes valued accordingly if trades are not available. These things will always find their own level - and if you're asked an extortionate price for a title you can always say no; it's really that easy.

I am sure those people with whom I have swapped scarce films in the past would be only too happy if me or some johnny-come-lately turned round and told them we had nothing to trade but would happily pay them 50p a title, plus a little bit more for postage...not ! Why should they bother taking years to build up a library of rare and much-loved films when they could just come along 20 or 30 years later and pick them all up for next to nothing ?

This argument should be levelled at the types who buy titles then shove them onto EBay at ridiculous prices because of their scarcity - or those who sell, re-sell and sell again on that under policed site.

It is far, far better just to swap titles where you can and if you're not happy with the concept of bought and sold titles then just carry on swapping and live without those films you've never seen. Like they say - what you've never had you never miss...

EDIT: I should add that my £15 title was a few years ago, when I knew that the person from whom I was buying had a collection that far outstripped my own, making trade offers pointless.

Smudge

[DB7]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang Are you Jeremy Clarkson by any chance, Julian? £15 is too expensive - I think £5 is reasonable if you must charge and I personally would not pay more than £10 for bootleg copies. Maybe we could have some sort of Britmovie maintenance fund to cover site costs for those who are opposed to charging? Presumably someone is shelling out for this site?

The site funding comes solely from affiliates and ads, nobody has ever contributed a dime.

As Harby says it's an old issue and one hard to police as the the correspondence invariably takes place via email and few ever want to 'name and shame'. The only solution I can think of is a £10 ceiling on trades and the threat of expulsion for those seen to be profiteering? But as Smudge points out, for rare titles people will shell out what they believe it's worth to them. Were I to offer Ramsbottom or There Was a Crooked Man, there are many who would happily pay over the odds; me included. I've a wants list and some I desire more than others.

[batman]

Like Smudge I have paid £15 for a DVDr of a rare title that it is unlikely I could have got elsewhere. I recently paid £35 to a trader in the US for the Max title I needed to complete my set, and it's in Italian with no subtitles. I was happy to pay that because I really wanted it. DVDr's are only really worth the value individuals place on them, and I valued that one highly. The seller charges such a high price to discourage people from buying .... she much prefers to trade, but I have no dvd recording gear so I have little to trade with.

With regard to this site, I have traded with and bought from several people and have had no problems whatsoever. I have found all those I have dealt with to be completely trustworthy ... and friendly as well.

With regard to e-bay I have noticed that there are many more sellers listing Brit movies than there were this time last year. The variety of titles is incredible. Many sellers are genuine movie lovers and these people tend not to charge too much for their films. Others are obviously out for a quick buck and charge silly amounts of money. One seller with whom I have a dialgue via email is thinking of abandoning ebay because other sellers are buying cheap from him and then re-selling at double the price. Therefore, even among ebay sellers there is a similar type of discontent.

This can be an expensive hobby, but so is stamp collecting!

Bats.

[Wolfgang]

High prices for rare items is actually not that problematic because you will easily recoup your layout, so I would be against capping prices on that basis, but with ebay and ioffer and sites like ZeroDay rare items do not stay rare for very long these days once they get into trading gene pools.

[Carmel]

I have gave people rare titles without charge as i am willing to help people in the hobbie with titles that i own to build up theirs and i think charging for copies beyond £5 rare or not is terrible, If you are in the hobbie why profit in this way by ripping people off with copies at the end of the day that is all it is a copy. This sight has no blame what so ever as trades and pricing are all done by private pm and this sight and the people that run it do not profit from the few rip off merchants that seem to want to gain rather than enjoy this hobbie. So id like to say i enjoy the sight and its members but not the few who are cowboys on this sight instead they should go to the wild west sight where the indians can have a go at shooting them down

[Frank63]

On the odd occasion I have sent a copy out I usually charge 2 1st class stamps, one for the return postage on the other to cover the cost of the disc. Actual disc cost 24p.

I'd only pay a fiver if it were VERY special and £15 under no circumstances

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang High prices for rare items is actually not that problematic because you will easily recoup your layout, so I would be against capping prices on that basis, but with ebay and ioffer and sites like ZeroDay rare items do not stay rare for very long these days once they get into trading gene pools.

If someone was to get a film from someone else on here, either as a swap or as a purchase, and then copies of that film were seen offered on eBay or elsewhere I think that suspicions would be raised and the person that offered it on eBay would soon find themselves excluded from further transactions

Steve

[Carmel]

Originally Posted by Steve Crook If someone was to get a film from someone else on here, either as a swap or as a purchase, and then copies of that film were seen offered on eBay or elsewhere I think that suspicions would be raised and the person that offered it on eBay would soon find themselves excluded from further transactions Steve

Well said Steve, you will find some people only coming on the sight to get rare British movies so they can flog them on ebay.

[Steve Crook]

Originally Posted by Carmel Well said Steve, you will find some people only coming on the sight to get rare British movies so they can flog them on ebay.

Or trying to

Steve

[MrT]

I do a lot of trading within this forum, and although I prefer to swop titles sometimes a small charge is made when there is no alternative. Many members here are very generous - on several occasions I have been sent more than the amount asked, which is very nice of those concerned, in appreciation of what has been sent. When a charge is made I always send the disc first as a sign of good faith and I have never been let down by anyone failing to send the small sum (or more!!) as agreed.

Let's keep the spirit of trading within this forum alive and kicking to everone's advantage!

Mike (MrT)